Heated grips are great! Once you try them, you won't go back.. heated grips with thinner gloves is much nicer than no heated grips with huge thick thermal gloves. I probably would agree with you if i tried them, but if you wear the right gloves your hands should be warm enough. Its just something else to break in my eyes, I am a minimalist and always have been. It reminds me of when I was 14 with my first car a mk2 Golf Gti 8v which had no PAS, ABS, E/W or even working door handles half the time for that matter but I would rather drive that today than most modern cars. Its like modern bikes with ABS even though I know in most cases ABS is better for you I have heard a lot of riders say they stop better without it? Linux till I die