T180985 Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 just wondered if you guys can help me with my track riding, im really struggling to hit the appex going from Mclaren to Clark Curve i always seem to go wide im hanging off the bike pretty much as much as i can and to the point that my pegs are scrapping so all i can think is maybe im going to fast for the corner..... i just wondered if i enter the corner at a slower speed should this allow me to hit the appex easoer and would this allow me to come on the power sooner and have a faster exit speed from clark curve onto the straight? Quote
Netmeister Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 Hey T,My first answer is to say next time your out grab yourself an instructor, I did and it worked wonders for my lines around Brands Indy.However to give you some sort of idea of what you should be aiming for I've knocked up the picture below.First thing to note is the yellow line through McLarens. From the apex of Surtees (where the yellow line starts) you can pretty much straight light it to the apex of McLaren (where the yellow line stops) from there you let the bike run out wide to left of the track (yellow dot) and cut back in for the first apex of Clearways. As you work your way around Clearways try and keep yourself just to the right of the middle of the track as the left part of the track falls away from you and pulls you out wide. You then cut back in for the second apex and from there just let the bike run wide naturally as you get the power on for the start/finish.Hope this helps mate, but as I said before seeing an instructor do it in front of you is the best way to learn lines.EDIT: A quick mention on entry speed. What group are you in? No offence but I very much doubt you're going in too fast. The most probable answer is that you're not turning the bike quick enough. It should be a quick flick into a bend to get the bike on line as quick as possible.If you haven't already, pick yourself up a copy of Keith Codes 'A Twist of the Wrist II' DVD, there's plenty on there to improve your riding, including how to get the bike turned quickly. Quote
T180985 Posted May 25, 2010 Author Posted May 25, 2010 thanks for the pic, i was trying to follow that line but as you said perhaps i didnt turn in fast enough at mclarens as it was there that i struggled to hit the apex tbh, i had an instructor which helped with body positioning and help confirm what else i thought i was doing wrong but still struggled with that corner. Think i may also need to move maybe a meter or so to the left before turning in as more often than not i was more centered on that corner i was fine with the rest of the track just really struggled with that series of turnsim in the Intermediate group btw Quote
Netmeister Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 So you got some more lined up?I've got a couple of evening sessions lined at Brands towards the end of June & beginning of July. Quote
T180985 Posted May 25, 2010 Author Posted May 25, 2010 not booked yet but i expect i will book up for the 16th of june, where are you booking yours by the way as i cant see any listed on their website? Quote
Netmeister Posted May 26, 2010 Posted May 26, 2010 I take it your booking with MSV?There are a few other track day organisers worth noting. No Limits, Focused Events, and Hottrax, and they usually come out a little cheaper than MSV too.I would choose No Limits first as their days are run brilliantly, but if I can't get the dates I want it would be FE, then MSV. Hottrax rarely do days at tracks round my way so I haven't done a day with them yet. Quote
T180985 Posted May 27, 2010 Author Posted May 27, 2010 will take a look at them sites thanks, i presume most bike track days are run in sessions then? ive done a car day which was open pitlane which i quite liked as was more flexible about when i could go on track just out of interest (and i know timing isnt allowed) but whats a good lap time for brands hatch indy circuit? did a quick google but mostly came up with car info Quote
Netmeister Posted May 27, 2010 Posted May 27, 2010 Yeah the days are run in 7 session from all the top track day organisers. You can get open pitlane day, but unless your confident in thefast group or top of the inters I wouldn't recommend it. From what I hear the days are ususally used for testing by racers.Anything under 1 minute for Brands Indy is a good lap time for a casual track dayer, the fast boys are pushing between 50-55 secs.I've not done any timing myself, but I'd hazard a guess I run about 1.05 based on my pace compared to others, but I'm not 100% sure. Will have the camera out with me on the 29th so can see how I get on. Quote
T180985 Posted May 27, 2010 Author Posted May 27, 2010 ok good stuff, i have a built in lap timer so was playing with that on the day. I know its not going to be completely accurate but managed to pretty consistantly get around 58.04seconds a lap with my fastest lap being 57.77 so not far off the fast boys will try turning in a tad faster and braking later to see how much that helps much Quote
Netmeister Posted May 27, 2010 Posted May 27, 2010 Thats very good for your first track day on a road bike and road tyres!Should leave me for dead then on the 29th Quote
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