mealexme Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 (edited) would you advise not to do it? I have heard that "you should never tighten the axle without a torque wrench because if you make it too tight, the axle bolt may break, and if it is too loose, the wheel will slip forward again"Do you guys all use torque wrenches? Can it be done without?Thanks, Alex Edited April 10, 2011 by mealexme Quote
Guest Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 Yeah done it before, just don't massively over tighten it!Although, if you have one, I'd suggest you use it! Quote
mealexme Posted April 10, 2011 Author Posted April 10, 2011 Yeah done it before, just don't massively over tighten it!Although, if you have one, I'd suggest you use it! awesome. What is th eplay in the chain meant to be between? I forgot lol Quote
Guest Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 check the manual for your bike but general rule is inch to inch 1/4 of freeplay Quote
mealexme Posted April 10, 2011 Author Posted April 10, 2011 check the manual for your bike but general rule is inch to inch 1/4 of freeplayoh yea lol. "20 ~ 30 mm (0.8 ~ 1.2 in)" thanksEDIT: i think its about twise that haha. Quote
mealexme Posted April 10, 2011 Author Posted April 10, 2011 Couple of quick questions. 1. what happens if its too loose?2. isnt chain lube meant to make the chain nice and slippery? because i currently have black sticky oil on my fingers (didnt have gloves) ut it shouldnt be sticky shoulld it? Quote
Guest Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 Too loose it can bounce off the sprocket.. not good .And it is generally quite thin but it will thicken up as it gets grimey etc. I'd clean it if there seemed to be minced up road film like gravel etc, if not as long as its got a sufficient covering of oil you should be okay for a bit. Also, people say its just as bad having a chain too lose as it is too tight, I figure as long as you cannot lift it off the sprocket then its better to have it a bit too loose than a bit too tight! Although chances are people will disagree with that.EDIT: I hate adjusting my chain, so mine is usually a little looser than it should be. Quote
mealexme Posted April 10, 2011 Author Posted April 10, 2011 Too loose it can bounce off the sprocket.. not good .And it is generally quite thin but it will thicken up as it gets grimey etc. I'd clean it if there seemed to be minced up road film like gravel etc, if not as long as its got a sufficient covering of oil you should be okay for a bit. Also, people say its just as bad having a chain too lose as it is too tight, I figure as long as you cannot lift it off the sprocket then its better to have it a bit too loose than a bit too tight! Although chances are people will disagree with that.EDIT: I hate adjusting my chain, so mine is usually a little looser than it should be.erm yea.. a "liitle" loose. Should be 20-30mm. Its around 80... Oh well, I have done over 200 miles on it and its been ok, so i will get it done when i next see if my neighbour is around to borrow a torque wrench lolAnd only did the chain last week. Strange Quote
Guest Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 Dunno how loose mine was at one point but when Dan (the man) saw it, he wasn't impressed! Quote
megawatt Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 You don,t need a torque wrench to tighten a spindle nut, just tighten it till you fart!!! You will only break it or strip it if you are a 20 stone ARM wrestler.Chain better too loose than too tight, ad long as it,s not jumping off sprockets or causing gear change problems. Lots of lubes are dry n sticky nowadays, just clean chain with paraffin once a month if dry weather. Quote
Guest Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 i have adjusted me chain many times without a torque wrench. as long as its done up and isnt going to move on the swingarm. i now have a torque wrench and i use it for peace of mind. but i figured i was overtightening the axel nut when i wasent using the torque wrench Quote
Guest Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 I have never used torque wrench in my life noob Quote
Decor58 Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 until two months ago when I finally bought one.Just tighten it up to a normal sort of tightness, don't bounce on it trying to get it as tight as possible, just until you feel stiff resistance then just a tiny bit further.When I actually did it with a torque wrench I found that using the above method I was pretty close to the recommended range.Oh and I might add, my wheel has never fallen off once Quote
cypek Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 I have never used torque wrench in my life noobLol, I've been working myself on each of my past 16 different cars, my old bike and never had a problem due to not using torque wrench Maybe you're noob because you need one Quote
Fozzie Posted April 14, 2011 Posted April 14, 2011 Well playedToo loose will shred your sprockets as well I might add.A dry chain heats up more and stretches a lot more.I dont use Torque wrenches, I've stripped bikes and never had a problem. Quote
mealexme Posted April 14, 2011 Author Posted April 14, 2011 well i aint using any wrench. Its on the last notch and cant be tightened any more :sNew chain it is... more money then Quote
Fozzie Posted April 14, 2011 Posted April 14, 2011 Oh hush hush It cant be more than £100 to buy a decent chain and sprocket set off Wemoto?When you get a bigger bike and the bill is twice that for a chain and sprockets your jaw will hit the floor! Quote
mike_pl Posted April 14, 2011 Posted April 14, 2011 silly question...how often you guys reckon you have to buy new chain?how many miles you do one one from new? Quote
mealexme Posted April 14, 2011 Author Posted April 14, 2011 Oh hush hush It cant be more than £100 to buy a decent chain and sprocket set off Wemoto?When you get a bigger bike and the bill is twice that for a chain and sprockets your jaw will hit the floor!im a student on £20 a week from my part time job (just under actually because im on min wage) so "only £100" is actually a lot for me, since i have other things to spend that £20 a week on too Quote
TC Posted April 14, 2011 Posted April 14, 2011 Oh hush hush It cant be more than £100 to buy a decent chain and sprocket set off Wemoto?When you get a bigger bike and the bill is twice that for a chain and sprockets your jaw will hit the floor!im a student on £20 a week from my part time job (just under actually because im on min wage) so "only £100" is actually a lot for me, since i have other things to spend that £20 a week on too Wait until you get a wife and kids Quote
mealexme Posted April 14, 2011 Author Posted April 14, 2011 Oh hush hush It cant be more than £100 to buy a decent chain and sprocket set off Wemoto?When you get a bigger bike and the bill is twice that for a chain and sprockets your jaw will hit the floor!im a student on £20 a week from my part time job (just under actually because im on min wage) so "only £100" is actually a lot for me, since i have other things to spend that £20 a week on too Wait until you get a wife and kids dont think £20 would last a day then lol Quote
megawatt Posted April 14, 2011 Posted April 14, 2011 You could always buy second hand . I bought a nearly new DID x ring chain for £24, best chain I ever bought. 30,000 miles and still going strong. Second hand everything on my bike, sprockets, tyres(two superbike ex race tyres, £44), headlamp off a Gilera runner, the list goes on and on. Quote
mealexme Posted April 14, 2011 Author Posted April 14, 2011 You could always buy second hand . I bought a nearly new DID x ring chain for £24, best chain I ever bought. 30,000 miles and still going strong. Second hand everything on my bike, sprockets, tyres(two superbike ex race tyres, £44), headlamp off a Gilera runner, the list goes on and on. fleabay it is then Quote
Guest Posted April 14, 2011 Posted April 14, 2011 you can probablly get a chain and sprockets kit for about £35. thats how much mine was for my 125 Quote
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