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AAAAAARRRRGGHHHHH >:[ (MOT related stuff) *update* ...


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As some of you know, my bike has been MOT-less since October. The reason for this is there were a few things needing done that we could do ourselves and as I was expecting the same snow as winter 2010/2011 I wasn't to bothered about getting it done in any hurry.


The weather is starting to improve and I am wanting a roadworthy bike. I had planned to get the few things sorted out this weekend and get it MOT'd during the week.


So, the first thing that needs sorted is dodgy indicator connection. Sorted that and the LHS rear bulb went. Unfortunately the screw heads have rounded off so we can't get the front off to replace the bulb. It only has on those cheap aftermarket fake carbon fibre mini ones on so best solution is new ones. However, this means no MOT til they arrive.


Next thing is new horn, new horn has been bought and tested however the problem is the old horn is stuck fast. We have tried several times over the last few months to remove the old one, inc leaving it soaked in WD-40 a few times but to no avail. Drillng not an option as we have no cordless drill. Hopefully the garage will be able to remove it otherwise the new one will just have to get stuck elsewhere.


Third thing. This is one that I only noticed today and it the main reason for the post subject. My exhaust is cracked. It must have happened a few months back when the bike was in getting new brakes fitted and it blew over in the wind. I inspected the exhaust at the time as it was slightly scratched and didn't notice but the bike hasn't moved since. The exhaust holder has obviously been knocked when its fallen over resulting in the exhaust being pushed into the hanger which has torn it.


I am guessing I already know the answer to this, but I can't afford a pretty new exhaust right now so I'm asking anyway... is there any chance at all that my exhaust is salvagable?! I'd have to replace it with a standard one off ebay but a black exhaust looks soooo much better on my black and red bike :(


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Hiya, Perhaps try this for the cracked exhaust.


Losen off the bracket, wrap the exhaust in this stuff


Click here


Then reatatch the bracket, hopefully the bracket will cover the temp fix too?


sorry I can't help more. Is your MOT place really strict? Mine was a total doss here on the boarders. I even sat on the bike while they did the MOT and was purposely being careful of all the broken bits :P

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This will be the first time I've ever had a bike MOT'd so I don't know! Someone on the gsxr forum has suggested that as long as the exhaust isn't blowing it'll pass like that :shock:


Even if so, not sure I'd fancy riding around with such a big tear in it, don't want to be riding along then next minute half m exhaust is trailing along the road :shock:


Ian: Its cracked open, the insides aren't damaged I don't think its just the outer 'case'. Apparently you can buy a replacement wrap to go round it but googling for this has only brought up sort of narrow tape stuff :/

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This will be the first time I've ever had a bike MOT'd so I don't know! Someone on the gsxr forum has suggested that as long as the exhaust isn't blowing it'll pass like that :shock:

 

They could be right. When i did an mot on my little 125, from what i can remember they did the following:


looked around the bike, tapping anything that could be loose. Eg, the footpegs, gear lever and so on. They felt if they had any play in them... If they did, they just said i need new bushes or w/e.


Then they checked my drive chain, saw what setting it was on and told me if it was too firm or too loose, in my case, slightly too tight.


They checked my brakes by putting me on some roller thing on the floor. Sped it up and told me to apply my brakes.


Also checked my indicators were flashing right


Checked my headlights were correctly allinged


Checked my frame wasn't bent with some laser thingy...



And that was that.



One tip I have, is clean it to within an inch of it's life, cosmetically if they bike looks sound they don't go into too much depth. Thats not 100% full proof, but in general it does normally pay dividends if you do put some attention into how it looks. They guy even said and i quote "looks like a tidy wee bike, shouldn't be a problem" before he started the MOT.

 

Even if so, not sure I'd fancy riding around with such a big tear in it, don't want to be riding along then next minute half m exhaust is trailing along the road :shock:

 


hahaha that would be a bit of a problem huh? :P

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Gayle , you can reskin it with another carbon fibre tube and re-rivet the ends. A cheaper option is to reskin it with a snug fitting stainless tube. Can you get accurate measurements of diameter and length between end caps and I can price up the materials for you? Can you post pix from the side and both ends please? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Ok, someone on the gsxr forum has given me a link to this 'Pj Engineering' who sell replacement 'tubes', so i think I just whip the old broken one off and pop the new one on? :/


My plan for just buying a standard replacement is out the window as I have discovered within the last ten minutes that the bit of exhaust where the silencer attaches to is not standard.


You'd think I'd have noticed that in all the pictures its black but mine is shiney. Nope. More importantly, the standard silencer attaches with 3 bolts, mine takes 4 :/


Alan- I don't think we can deal with rivets :(

I will get the measurements in a mo.... :)

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Ok, the length between end caps is 460mm, total length inc end caps 465mm, diameter is 104mm at the narrow bit and 138mm at the wide bit.


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This will be the first time I've ever had a bike MOT'd so I don't know! Someone on the gsxr forum has suggested that as long as the exhaust isn't blowing it'll pass like that :shock:


Even if so, not sure I'd fancy riding around with such a big tear in it, don't want to be riding along then next minute half m exhaust is trailing along the road :shock:


Ian: Its cracked open, the insides aren't damaged I don't think its just the outer 'case'. Apparently you can buy a replacement wrap to go round it but googling for this has only brought up sort of narrow tape stuff :/

 

That is correct, so long no gas leaks and all of it goes out the tail pipe, you will pass.

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If they are alloy rivets, you just drill em out with a normal drill . If they are stainless, it's best to use a boron tipped drill. Make sure you buy the correct oval for your can. Price everything up before buying, it may be cheaper and quicker to buy a second hand replacement. Cheaper carbon cans usually burn out and crack. Better quality ones have an inner skin to reflect the heat? :mrgreen: I can do the work for you , but it will cost postage money as well as my time ???

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Thanks everyone for your suggestions!


I am not sure what to do next, was hoping to get the bike back on the road quickly and cheaply so will have to weigh up all the options and decide what is best. Will start another thread asking how to find out what exhaust fits!


On another note, my new indicators arrived this morning and I don't think they match the existing ones :roll:

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The other option (maybe) is to do what I did with my 'Storm when I had a similarly damaged exhaust after dropping the bike. Drill out the rivets and remove one end cap, cut sleeve in half to remove the damaged section, refit end cap.


DIY stubbies FTW! :)

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Can you measure accurately the outside diameter of the linkpipe wher it bolts to the silencer? And post pix of the fitting :mrgreen: ?

The cheapest repair is a a sheet of aluminium wrapped over the carbon skin, rivetted at the ends and all the way along the seam , which would be at the back where you can't see it?

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Managed to get a replacement exhaust that fitted for cheaps on ebay (from a k4 thou), arrived today.


Connection is fine, of course back end of a srad not the same as the k4 and so footpeg/hanger doesn't line up.


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Its just one thing after another.

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If you can bolt the can up tight and the hanger isn't pushing it sideways too much, just drill through the bracket bolt hole into the zorst hanger. If too much interference, cut the bit that touches and we can make a bracket to join the two holes, if you give me dimensions?

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Alan: The can sits too high, its pressed hard against the hanger which is why its not sitting flush where it connects to the exhaust pipe, so the hanger needs to be about probably 1" higher and the bolt hole on the can is is about 3" further forward than the bolt hole on the hanger.


Will try and get measurements later, absolutely chucking it down atm :(


Stu: thats what I am hoping to do, have looked before at getting a different hanger so I could get rid of the pillion pegs as they'll never get used. Would keep them though for selling bike even though with that exhaust system on I'm not sure they'd be usable :|

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i would really look at getting the right system for the bike though just keep an eye out you may get one cheap


dont buy a hanger as you will be pissing in the wind i cant see you been able to buy one that will fit get one made up it shouldnt cost a lot!

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Bolted to the frame but its bolted horizontally so loosening it wouldn't lower it any.


Arrow is the bit of the exhaust that attaches and square is where it is attached


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  • 4 weeks later...

Ok! Hopefully these measurements are ok!

Only realised tonight that the fairing attaches onto the footpeg/hanger so modifying a srad hanger probs best option? :/


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