iiisecondcreep Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 (edited) As some of you know, my bike has been MOT-less since October. The reason for this is there were a few things needing done that we could do ourselves and as I was expecting the same snow as winter 2010/2011 I wasn't to bothered about getting it done in any hurry. The weather is starting to improve and I am wanting a roadworthy bike. I had planned to get the few things sorted out this weekend and get it MOT'd during the week.So, the first thing that needs sorted is dodgy indicator connection. Sorted that and the LHS rear bulb went. Unfortunately the screw heads have rounded off so we can't get the front off to replace the bulb. It only has on those cheap aftermarket fake carbon fibre mini ones on so best solution is new ones. However, this means no MOT til they arrive.Next thing is new horn, new horn has been bought and tested however the problem is the old horn is stuck fast. We have tried several times over the last few months to remove the old one, inc leaving it soaked in WD-40 a few times but to no avail. Drillng not an option as we have no cordless drill. Hopefully the garage will be able to remove it otherwise the new one will just have to get stuck elsewhere.Third thing. This is one that I only noticed today and it the main reason for the post subject. My exhaust is cracked. It must have happened a few months back when the bike was in getting new brakes fitted and it blew over in the wind. I inspected the exhaust at the time as it was slightly scratched and didn't notice but the bike hasn't moved since. The exhaust holder has obviously been knocked when its fallen over resulting in the exhaust being pushed into the hanger which has torn it.I am guessing I already know the answer to this, but I can't afford a pretty new exhaust right now so I'm asking anyway... is there any chance at all that my exhaust is salvagable?! I'd have to replace it with a standard one off ebay but a black exhaust looks soooo much better on my black and red bike http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/iiisecondcreep/Bikey/DSC00288Medium.jpghttp://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/iiisecondcreep/Bikey/DSC00293Medium.jpghttp://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/iiisecondcreep/Bikey/DSC00300Medium.jpghttp://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/iiisecondcreep/Bikey/DSC00296Medium.jpghttp://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/iiisecondcreep/Bikey/DSC00297Medium.jpg Edited March 3, 2012 by iiisecondcreep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb350sg Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Hiya, Perhaps try this for the cracked exhaust.Losen off the bracket, wrap the exhaust in this stuffClick hereThen reatatch the bracket, hopefully the bracket will cover the temp fix too?sorry I can't help more. Is your MOT place really strict? Mine was a total doss here on the boarders. I even sat on the bike while they did the MOT and was purposely being careful of all the broken bits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttled Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Is it the actual exhaust cracked or just a covering to it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iiisecondcreep Posted February 19, 2012 Author Share Posted February 19, 2012 This will be the first time I've ever had a bike MOT'd so I don't know! Someone on the gsxr forum has suggested that as long as the exhaust isn't blowing it'll pass like that Even if so, not sure I'd fancy riding around with such a big tear in it, don't want to be riding along then next minute half m exhaust is trailing along the road Ian: Its cracked open, the insides aren't damaged I don't think its just the outer 'case'. Apparently you can buy a replacement wrap to go round it but googling for this has only brought up sort of narrow tape stuff :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb350sg Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 This will be the first time I've ever had a bike MOT'd so I don't know! Someone on the gsxr forum has suggested that as long as the exhaust isn't blowing it'll pass like that They could be right. When i did an mot on my little 125, from what i can remember they did the following: looked around the bike, tapping anything that could be loose. Eg, the footpegs, gear lever and so on. They felt if they had any play in them... If they did, they just said i need new bushes or w/e.Then they checked my drive chain, saw what setting it was on and told me if it was too firm or too loose, in my case, slightly too tight.They checked my brakes by putting me on some roller thing on the floor. Sped it up and told me to apply my brakes.Also checked my indicators were flashing rightChecked my headlights were correctly allingedChecked my frame wasn't bent with some laser thingy...And that was that. One tip I have, is clean it to within an inch of it's life, cosmetically if they bike looks sound they don't go into too much depth. Thats not 100% full proof, but in general it does normally pay dividends if you do put some attention into how it looks. They guy even said and i quote "looks like a tidy wee bike, shouldn't be a problem" before he started the MOT. Even if so, not sure I'd fancy riding around with such a big tear in it, don't want to be riding along then next minute half m exhaust is trailing along the road hahaha that would be a bit of a problem huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megawatt Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Gayle , you can reskin it with another carbon fibre tube and re-rivet the ends. A cheaper option is to reskin it with a snug fitting stainless tube. Can you get accurate measurements of diameter and length between end caps and I can price up the materials for you? Can you post pix from the side and both ends please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iiisecondcreep Posted February 19, 2012 Author Share Posted February 19, 2012 Ok, someone on the gsxr forum has given me a link to this 'Pj Engineering' who sell replacement 'tubes', so i think I just whip the old broken one off and pop the new one on? :/My plan for just buying a standard replacement is out the window as I have discovered within the last ten minutes that the bit of exhaust where the silencer attaches to is not standard.You'd think I'd have noticed that in all the pictures its black but mine is shiney. Nope. More importantly, the standard silencer attaches with 3 bolts, mine takes 4 :/Alan- I don't think we can deal with rivets I will get the measurements in a mo.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iiisecondcreep Posted February 19, 2012 Author Share Posted February 19, 2012 Ok, the length between end caps is 460mm, total length inc end caps 465mm, diameter is 104mm at the narrow bit and 138mm at the wide bit.http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/iiisecondcreep/Bikey/DSC00309Medium.jpghttp://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/iiisecondcreep/Bikey/DSC00308Medium.jpghttp://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/iiisecondcreep/Bikey/DSC00306Medium.jpghttp://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/iiisecondcreep/Bikey/DSC00305Medium.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttled Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 This will be the first time I've ever had a bike MOT'd so I don't know! Someone on the gsxr forum has suggested that as long as the exhaust isn't blowing it'll pass like that Even if so, not sure I'd fancy riding around with such a big tear in it, don't want to be riding along then next minute half m exhaust is trailing along the road Ian: Its cracked open, the insides aren't damaged I don't think its just the outer 'case'. Apparently you can buy a replacement wrap to go round it but googling for this has only brought up sort of narrow tape stuff :/ That is correct, so long no gas leaks and all of it goes out the tail pipe, you will pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megawatt Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 If they are alloy rivets, you just drill em out with a normal drill . If they are stainless, it's best to use a boron tipped drill. Make sure you buy the correct oval for your can. Price everything up before buying, it may be cheaper and quicker to buy a second hand replacement. Cheaper carbon cans usually burn out and crack. Better quality ones have an inner skin to reflect the heat? I can do the work for you , but it will cost postage money as well as my time ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 You'll need to remove the rivets no matter what you decide. I think J B Engineering are the manufacturer of Quill exhausts...so you should get the right thing if you but from them..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megawatt Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 I thought Quill were a good make too? Have a chat with them ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iiisecondcreep Posted February 25, 2012 Author Share Posted February 25, 2012 Thanks everyone for your suggestions!I am not sure what to do next, was hoping to get the bike back on the road quickly and cheaply so will have to weigh up all the options and decide what is best. Will start another thread asking how to find out what exhaust fits!On another note, my new indicators arrived this morning and I don't think they match the existing ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogof Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 The other option (maybe) is to do what I did with my 'Storm when I had a similarly damaged exhaust after dropping the bike. Drill out the rivets and remove one end cap, cut sleeve in half to remove the damaged section, refit end cap. DIY stubbies FTW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megawatt Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Can you measure accurately the outside diameter of the linkpipe wher it bolts to the silencer? And post pix of the fitting ?The cheapest repair is a a sheet of aluminium wrapped over the carbon skin, rivetted at the ends and all the way along the seam , which would be at the back where you can't see it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iiisecondcreep Posted March 3, 2012 Author Share Posted March 3, 2012 Managed to get a replacement exhaust that fitted for cheaps on ebay (from a k4 thou), arrived today. Connection is fine, of course back end of a srad not the same as the k4 and so footpeg/hanger doesn't line up.http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/424800_10151367080800065_704695064_23209319_1646903548_n.jpg http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/429838_10151367080655065_704695064_23209318_992615920_n.jpghttp://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/429755_10151367080505065_704695064_23209317_1535453017_n.jpgIts just one thing after another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megawatt Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 If you can bolt the can up tight and the hanger isn't pushing it sideways too much, just drill through the bracket bolt hole into the zorst hanger. If too much interference, cut the bit that touches and we can make a bracket to join the two holes, if you give me dimensions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 if your not going to carry pillions remove the pegs and get a hanger made up as i bet thats what the last owner did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iiisecondcreep Posted March 3, 2012 Author Share Posted March 3, 2012 Alan: The can sits too high, its pressed hard against the hanger which is why its not sitting flush where it connects to the exhaust pipe, so the hanger needs to be about probably 1" higher and the bolt hole on the can is is about 3" further forward than the bolt hole on the hanger. Will try and get measurements later, absolutely chucking it down atm Stu: thats what I am hoping to do, have looked before at getting a different hanger so I could get rid of the pillion pegs as they'll never get used. Would keep them though for selling bike even though with that exhaust system on I'm not sure they'd be usable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 i would really look at getting the right system for the bike though just keep an eye out you may get one cheap dont buy a hanger as you will be pissing in the wind i cant see you been able to buy one that will fit get one made up it shouldnt cost a lot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megawatt Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Can do that for ya Gayle.Is the collector or linkpipe bolted to the frame or engine lower down. If you loosen that bolt, will the silencer clear the bracket??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iiisecondcreep Posted March 4, 2012 Author Share Posted March 4, 2012 Bolted to the frame but its bolted horizontally so loosening it wouldn't lower it any.Arrow is the bit of the exhaust that attaches and square is where it is attachedhttp://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/iiisecondcreep/Bikey/DSC00330psMedium.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megawatt Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 If you loosen the linkpipe to frame bolt, press down hard on the linkpipe, tighten the bolt up. May be enough to clear the silencer??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iiisecondcreep Posted April 1, 2012 Author Share Posted April 1, 2012 Ok! Hopefully these measurements are ok!Only realised tonight that the fairing attaches onto the footpeg/hanger so modifying a srad hanger probs best option? :/http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/iiisecondcreep/Bikey/DIY/DSC00383Medium.jpghttp://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/iiisecondcreep/Bikey/DIY/DSC00384Medium.jpghttp://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/iiisecondcreep/Bikey/DIY/DSC00386Medium.jpghttp://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/iiisecondcreep/Bikey/DIY/DSC00387Medium.jpghttp://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/iiisecondcreep/Bikey/DIY/DSC00388Medium.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megawatt Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Thanks Gayle , I'll be in touch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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