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hi


I am very appreciative for your help...took the air box off and its cracked. I can get used one for 29 or a set of kn for 40. love the kn but would I need different jets? if so how would I find which ones I need


cheers all

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Don't fit k&n's. They are free flowing to start with, and as the dirt accumulates, they get worse till they are worse than a standard filter. The point being, if you fit and forget like a paper filter they are rubbish, they need cleaning fairly frequently.


You need to find out what BHP the standard air filter will perform up to. Probably about 250-300bhp. Then if you intend to tune your engine above this power output, you will need to put a freer flowing filter on.


Sorry, I just find it funny people often want to fit K&n etc, when the filter is not restricting the airflow in the first place, but they are high maintenance.

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cheers for the response. ...could be new airbox then. took airbox off be because it was cracked and only saw kn when searching for airbox.


bike running very wooly so ive changed carbs. ..and plugs. ..there anything else it could be


cheers

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Don't fit k&n's. They are free flowing to start with, and as the dirt accumulates, they get worse till they are worse than a standard filter. The point being, if you fit and forget like a paper filter they are rubbish, they need cleaning fairly frequently.

 


thats a new one on me!!


they can last up to 50k before they need cleaning


http://www.knfilters.co.uk/filtercharger.aspx


I've used K&N's for years with no problems at all the problem


how can a aftermarket oil filter clog up more then a paper one?? they are both exposed to the same amount of dirt so in reality they would collect the same amount unless the K&N mysteriously attracts more?


my opinion is to fit an air box and whatever filter you like in the air box

what your thinking of doing is fitting K&N pod filters which are crap the air box is their for a reason and you would run in to all sorts of running issues without it as it would need jetting to suit and all sorts

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Yes Stu, but the problem is people who don't understand the difference fit and forget K&Ns because the 'last forever'. I know they can work well, but my experience is people who are asking what air filter to get or how to mend one will tend to not get the best results.


As you suggested, k&n panels in a standard airbox is quite a good combo, but most people saying they are fitting k&ns mean they are putting cone filters on which I personally think are crap!

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As you suggested, k&n panels in a standard airbox is quite a good combo, but most people saying they are fitting k&ns mean they are putting cone filters on which I personally think are crap!

 


totally agree there


I wasn't having a pop its just a bit of a broad sweeping statement saying K&N's are crap when in reality its just the ones which the OP is thinking of posting :)

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:stupid:


with the standard set up on the TL there is no gains to be had with a K&N over the standard paper filter its been tried and tested back to back on a dyno


you only see real gains when you start modifying thats why I run a K&N 8-)

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:stupid:


with the standard set up on the TL there is no gains to be had with a K&N over the standard paper filter its been tried and tested back to back on a dyno


you only see real gains when you start modifying thats why I run a K&N 8-)

 


LOL,Can I point you back to my first reply?


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:stupid:


with the standard set up on the TL there is no gains to be had with a K&N over the standard paper filter its been tried and tested back to back on a dyno


you only see real gains when you start modifying thats why I run a K&N 8-)

 


LOL,Can I point you back to my first reply?


:up:

 


and can I point you to my last post about modifying!!


I see the gains from a K&N due to what I have done to my bike the stock paper one is fine for a standard bike but even fitting a set of race cans with a better filter makes a really big improvement on mine :wink: its a waste of time with just a better filter as the cans then strangle it as does the air box hence why I have took all the flapper valve out of mine and opened it up :wink:

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The answer to your question is either


a) get a replacement stock air box and live happily ever after.


b) Replace your air box and get a K&N filter to fit in your standard box and live happily every after


c)get cone filters and a whole bunch of other stuff and change your jets and then do dyno runs to confirm you've gained probably a small amount of horse power.


Like many things in life it isn't as simple as just slapping K&Ns in there and going like the clappers. Unless your from the 'sit on the couch all day drinking protein shakes' school of thought.

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The answer to your question is either


a) get a replacement stock air box and live happily ever after.


b) Replace your air box and get a K&N filter to fit in your standard box and live happily every after


c)get cone filters and a whole bunch of other stuff and change your jets and then do dyno runs to confirm you've gained probably a small amount of horse power.


Like many things in life it isn't as simple as just slapping K&Ns in there and going like the clappers. Unless your from the 'sit on the couch all day drinking protein shakes' school of thought.

 

Hahaha i like it! I have stuck with the airbox (new one ordered) and airfilter set up! Wasnt bothered about the horse power mor about the look but really wasnt worth the effort.


Cheers

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Just to let you know...i have read numerous forums regarding the KN filters and unless you are going to throw money at the machine for new jets its a no go....especiialy on the 600 bandit!


Dynojet stage three is the recommended set up with the KN single cone filters.


I have purchased a second hand airbox after some bartering and a stock airfilter...My bike is on the mend.


Fitted the new Carbs (built one good set from 2 faulty sets) and the bandit started first time after being sat for 8 weeks..bearing in mind its a mk1.


Onto the cosmetics now...does anyone know an alternative to renthals?


Cheers :cheers:

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