Stu Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 the worst thing for you too is if you haven't had chance to use the tokicos then you wont know any difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 the worst thing for you too is if you haven't had chance to use the tokicos then you wont know any differenceTrue, and I'd thought about it a lot. I mean those 6 pots are as used on the 12r and the hayabusa I think. Both heavy and fast, but the price was right so took a punt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Forecast looking good this weekend.With a bit of luck tomorrow will consisit of:tank offAir filter and plug changea bloody good cleantank onFuel filter change (not so confident on this one as not sure I have any hose clamps)Caliper and brake fluid change (providing my new pads arrive).and the best bit...test ride!I will get some pics up as i go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 True, and I'd thought about it a lot. I mean those 6 pots are as used on the 12r and the hayabusa I think. Both heavy and fast, but the price was right so took a punt. the calipers on the 12r and the busa are actually different calipers they was redesigned as the ones on the TLR/ZXR etc etc where shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 the calipers on the 12r and the busa are actually different calipers they was redesigned as the ones on the TLR/ZXR etc etc where shit bloody good job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Oh Ffs. Got the tank off ok, noticed a few fittings were missing but that's ok to sort out. Got the air box off and it was full of crap. The 3 bolts that seal the airborne to the carbs were missing. It's been sucking non filtered air through the side of the carbs. Ok, we can sort that.. Move on to the plugs. Plugs 1,2,4 are easy enough... 3 is a sod to get too and... Wtf??? The plug was broken... The ceramic was cracked. Big worries about what's now in the engine. I cleaned the plug area with a dollop of grease to pick up any pieces and it pulled a few bits out... I even hoovered it lolAnyway, new plug in and lead back on. All the bits are back on and it runs ok but it's untidier than I thought. Needs a lot of screws and bolts and ALL the plastics need replacing. This is gonna be a long termer... Will get some pics loaded soon.The effing plug.... Surprised it was running with this!! But glad I changed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Fro Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 So what made no.3 difficult to get to? The ram air think?Crap luck about the shagged plug but it sounds like you dud the right thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 No. 3 just has too many pipes etc.. around it. From the state of it I think the previous owner thought the same and didn't change it before as not only was it fooked, but a lot blacker than the others. Sadly no tinkering today as camped out in front of Superbikes Sunday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Fro Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 You do know you can throw most of those pipes, valves and general shit in the bin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 No idea! Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Not had a lot of time to work on her recently but this weekend I managed invest a couple of hours. Firstly the caliper change. Refurbished nissins were very good and the tokicos whilst looking grubby, were also pretty good nick too. I'd not changed calipers before. So after loosening off the caliper bolts and then the brake union I wasn't quite prepared for the great ooze of brake fluid that came out. My mistake, I took the reservoir cap off first! Which allows a free flow of fluid. Once I out the cap back on it slowed it right down which gave me much more time to fit the union to the new calipers. Given the signs of lack of care on other areas of the bike I shouldn't have been surprised when I noticed that there wasn't any copper washers around the union of one of the calipers! How it wasn't pissing fluid under pressure I have no idea! Anyway, long and short of it is that I have changed the calipers over successfully, new fluid all bled through OK. The only issue I have on the brakes now is that because every retained the original brake hoses, they have to pass straight across the top caliper bolt which I'd a tight fit, I could really do with new hoses but they can wait. The other thing I have noticed is a blow between the end can and where it attacks to the pipe. I expect its just the gasket but until I get a new hex driver socket set I can't take the can off. My hex keys will just snap with the torque needed to get them off. That's it for now, I promise to get some pics up of the brake change soon, but I want going to use my phone with brake crud all over the place. Lawers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 here is a pic of the minimal clearance between the front brake line and the caliper bolt, its slightly less than this on the other side..The brakes work ! but it was wet so couldn't test them properly, but they don't seem to bind and everything moves freely.Also decided to fix the exhaust leak between the end can and the mid section. I'm a bit concerned by the mess i found.should i be? its black all the way down and feels a little oily. The exhaust originally came from a ZX9R and my bike doesn't seem to burn oil so hoping its a hangover from the previous bike......gulp!I cleaned the two mating surfaces up with some wirewool and a stanley blade. used a bit of EAP5 to seal it and its not blowing anymore at least.Apart from getting the front forks refurbed, i'm not sure what next - tidy up a few more nuts and bolts i guess. I would like to drop off with a mechanic for an hour or twos labour and just give it the once over to see if anything is urgent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Fro Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I can't really see from your fist pic bud, it's a bit fuzzy - what's the bolt you've got the hanger fixed on with? It should be a hex but it looks like a flat.If you're worried about the oily stuff in the can you can always chuck a bit of caustic soda through it to clean it out. At least you'll be able to tell if you're burning any oil from now on. I take it you've given the exhaust gasses a bit of a sniff too.How's it running now anyhow? I guess you might be a bit lean if you've pinched a can from a 9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Fro, the two hanger bolts are both domed chrome bolts, as were on there originally. Other ninjas ive seen have the same bolts. Changing these would increase the clearance though.here is a link to a slightly bigger picture:https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-GcrO9POwDRM/Uonj3w1xiqI/AAAAAAAAHLA/1RtwBHmkJmw/w326-h435-no/IMG_20131116_133722.jpgi've not got the printout from of the exhaust from the last mot so not sure if lean or not, although i do have some pics of the plugs i took out i think..but not close enough to tell...they have all since been replaced with original spec plugs.it seems to run smoothly, runs ok on idle ( once warmed up) and part throttle is ok but the carbs could do with a good clean but i've not done that before so put that off for the time being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I have exactly the same problem with the brake lines on mine I have angled mine out enough to stop any fouling and to get a spanner in too are they OE lines? if so consider some braided and find a company that will alter the banjo bolts to suit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 yes they are Stu, new lines are on the list. i'm not worried about braided hoses, they are a bit of a waste imho. will just get some standard spec ones made up i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Fro Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Can you even get standard hoses for these now? I slapped HEL lines on both of mine this year and if I'm being honest, I can't really tell much difference...Carb cleaning isn't to bad a job, just do one at a time and make a note of how many turns in/out various screws are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 oh poostarted the bike for the first time a week or so and somethings not right.it struggles to start even on full choke and once it has started any touch of the throttle causes it to stall.once it has warmed up and settled a little it idles ok but if i rev it at all i get whitish smoke with the odd backfire. with white smoke im concerned about headgasketbut coolent looks as it should.could it be carbs need sorting?btw the smoke isnt constant it like it gets to a certain level and chucks out a gob full of it.i am concerned...help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 could the smoke just be condensation in the exhaust? it will be more noticeable in this cold weather as for the rough running start with carbs plugs and coils/ht leads get the carbs stripped and cleaned new plugs if not already and gapped correctly check all the plug caps and fitment on to the plug and HT lead remove the plug cap and trim a quarter of an inch off the lead and fit the cap again check all electrical connections on to the coil too I'm guessing you have new fuel in there too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 I would like to think it was water stu, but it's pretty stinky. Smells of fuel so maybe I'm running rich? I'm guessing. I have new plugs (standard spec) and recently replaced 1 end cap. I'll check and trim as suggested. The carbs scare me a bit lol might bite the bullet and get a pro to check those. Ta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 fuel smell can actually be running lean so could be blocked jets etc carbs are really easy see other thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 chears Stu - will give it a go. best load up on carb cleaner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Fro Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 oh poostarted the bike for the first time a week or so and somethings not right.it struggles to start even on full choke and once it has started any touch of the throttle causes it to stall.once it has warmed up and settled a little it idles ok but if i rev it at all i get whitish smoke with the odd backfire. with white smoke im concerned about headgasketbut coolent looks as it should.could it be carbs need sorting?btw the smoke isnt constant it like it gets to a certain level and chucks out a gob full of it.i am concerned...help! I had exactly the same problem with mine when I got it, once finally started it needed to warm up for ages before I could even look at the throttle.Mine has an OEM filter with aftermarket end can and emissions delete.I gave the carbs a good old service, reset all the screws to standard and played about with the main jets and floats - off the top I think I ended up with 160, 170, 170, 160 and the floats 1mm lower. I'll dig out my notebook and correct myself if I'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 cheers Fro, that's good to know!i think they are 180,170,170,180 standard?ps i've put an update iro of this specific issue at the link HERE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 More questions than answers.so the carbs are going to come off in the near future but in the meantime i decided to take off all the "kleen air" system (emmissions reduction gumff). 1) I'm fairly happy with the handywork (above) but in stripping out the hoses i've got some questions. I found a breather hose of some description that wasn't attached to anything and had a plug on the end. it was completely blocked with what looked like old oil. could this be a fuel tank breather or something? its a clear plastic hose - another picture below. 2) secondly, when disconnecting the vacuum hoses from the carbs i noticed that there were only 3 of them. feeling around under the carbs there seems to be only 3 "nipples" to attach the hoses onto, and where the one is missing it is replaced with a bolt... i stuck my mobile down there to grab a pic and have also circled the bits i mean. Does that sound/look right to you?3) from the gumff that was removed, there was a wire/sensor attached to the t-piece. it went nowhere and had been cut. its obviously fulyl remved now but any idea what it would have been? seen here by my thumb.Thanks Guys, as usual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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