Phooey Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Eventually managed to fit the scotoiler today, with the help of a mate. I fitted the unit behind the number plate inside the rear mud guard as this was one of the suggestion by scotoiler. The way that it is fitted I have to remove the reservoir to fill it up and to remove the reservoir I have to disconnect the feedpipe. This causes air to get into the system. Any suggestion how I am able to get this air out with the unit in situ?Currently the trapped air is not allowing the oil to flow.Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Fro Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Bit of pipe and a funnel or howabout one of those squeezy bottles that have a feed pipe inside? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phooey Posted January 24, 2015 Author Share Posted January 24, 2015 Not sure that I am describing the situation very well here. Here are some pics that will hopefully make it clearer, although the quality of the pics are not good.The filler bottle is a squeezy type, Mr Fro, with the plastic tube on it. The problem is that I have the remove the resevoir which necessitates the removal of the feed pipe. Removing the feedpipe is letting air into the system. This is what I want to avoid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Fro Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Okay, I think I see what you mean...Howabout a three way stopcock in the exit line - something like this:http://www.capitolscientific.com/core/media/media.nl?id=39423&c=1250437&h=9f6717a2d28e65f12fa1If you put it somewhere accessible then all you'd have to do it attach the squeezy bottle to the open port, turn the nubbin 90 degrees, fill 'er up and turn it back.It'd work unless there's a one way valve at the bottom of the reservoir... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phooey Posted January 24, 2015 Author Share Posted January 24, 2015 Ermmmm! I just sat next to my bike with the engine running thinking about the problem and noticed that oil was dripping onto my chain. Maybe the air in the tube doesn't make any difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 it will come out on its own hopefully just keep an eye on it over the next few days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phooey Posted January 24, 2015 Author Share Posted January 24, 2015 Cool. Thanks Stu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullscreenaging Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 It's been a while (8 years) since I've owned and used a scottoiler, but to my recollection you should have an applicator that you attach to the tube at the top of the reservoir and squeeze it in that way.Either that or buy a syringe with a tube off eBay and do it that way. Again if my memory serves me correctly you shouldn't have to disconnect the reservoir as it is under vacuum pressure. I remember having to split my vacuum pipe under the tank to fit a small t-connector.Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastanglianbiker Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 you should also be able to turn the body of the oiler to prime and that pushes the oil through and then you turn it back to reset it to the amount you want it to feed out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phooey Posted January 24, 2015 Author Share Posted January 24, 2015 Thanks guys. Yes everything you have said is correct but the way it is situated I can't fill it without taking it out of the holder and then I have to remove the feed pipe so I no longer have a vacuum.Looks like it is dealing with the air bubble by itself. Will keep an eye on it and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullscreenaging Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Maybe try and locate it elsewhere on the bike? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Could you put a clamp on the pipe before you disconnect it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John933 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 What I can't see is. That air bubble should run to the highest point of the tube. Then just leave it. It's to do with the capillary action. Long and short is, if you have more liquid in the tube than air it should still work. Or you could unclip the feed tube. Not take it off. Rise the tube and the air should come out the tip/needle. You'll get the idea.John933 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogof Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Looks like it is dealing with the air bubble by itself. Will keep an eye on it and see what happens. Mine has always managed to, so I'd ignore it since it's working as intended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamBerryKing Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 bubbles always moved along with the oil when i had my oiler attached. they werent much of an issue. but you should really think about mounting it somwhere easier to fill up, as the point in these is to make life easy, and its making it harder for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mealexme Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 you should also be able to turn the body of the oiler to prime and that pushes the oil through and then you turn it back to reset it to the amount you want it to feed out I feel you might have glossed over this point, so I'll repeat it, because thats what its there for.Set it to prime, go on a ride, let the bubble out, then turn it back down again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Old Git Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Mine is also mounted behind the rear numberplate - to fill it, I just remove the plate and then pivot the fill tube out and fill (the detail is available to download from the Scotoiler website).The only time I get bubbles are if I allow the resevoir to run out completely. Following the instructions on re-priming the resevoir and then using the 'prime' position on the oiler itself, bubbles quickly are expelled. Resetting the flow is quite 'fiddly' but once done, it is easily repeated.If you have to remove the resevoir to fill it, I'd question whether you have installed it correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Just filled mine up (I had allow it to run out just because it was a bit messy but have some long tours coming up so wanted to make sure it's all good for that).Had air in the system but after 40 or so miles riding, it was air lock free and pi$$sing out all over the place... set the flow rate back down to minimum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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