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I was out last night and started to notice when rolling towards lights I couldn't get into N from 1st and I had to go up to 2nd and pop it into N from there...?


I have installed new levers but with the clutch all the way in I need to release it about 1-2cm before the bike pulls away.. That means the clutch lever is adjusted appropriately and is fully disengaging the clutch so that won't be the issue... I hope?


Any ideas?


It's an '00 Triumph TT600.

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Moved to the right section


what is the mileage on the bike?


if your old levers are fine then fit them and see if it solves the issue to start with


it could be that your clutch plates may need replacing


they can warp and generally get out of shape and also what is called dished will explain that one if I really need to


also try blipping the throttle when changing from 1st to neutral this can help when you have warped/dished plates


does it do it all the time or just when warm?

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I was out last night and started to notice when rolling towards lights I couldn't get into N from 1st and I had to go up to 2nd and pop it into N from there...?

 


My bike does this too.

I reckon it's deliberate to help prevent false neutrals and engine explosions when giving it the beans and doing full throttle gear changes from first to second...

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My CBT bike (older yamaha sr125) and my own bike (MSX - new) both do this. The SV650 I do my lessons/test on is also a complete pest to get into neutral from 1st or 2nd. So much so that I occasionally just turn it off to get it down to neutral.

I figured it was pretty normal. :? Although I am going to replace the horrible split pin gear linkage with a rose joint version. Which appear to solve the problem.

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My bike does this too.

I reckon it's deliberate to help prevent false neutrals and engine explosions when giving it the beans and doing full throttle gear changes from first to second...

I did think this but I'm certain I used to be able to slot it into N from 1 previously... nevermind, as long as it's not a bad thing.

 

My CBT bike (older yamaha sr125) and my own bike (MSX - new) both do this. The SV650 I do my lessons/test on is also a complete pest to get into neutral from 1st or 2nd. So much so that I occasionally just turn it off to get it down to neutral.

I figured it was pretty normal. :? Although I am going to replace the horrible split pin gear linkage with a rose joint version. Which appear to solve the problem.

I found the SV650 a dream to do my lessons on, SUCH an easy bike.. but I never really used N I just kept the clutch in at lights (1 less thing to think about during lessons).

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Moved to the right section

- Sorry

what is the mileage on the bike?

- 34k

if your old levers are fine then fit them and see if it solves the issue to start with

- Old levers got bent when I dropped the bike :(

it could be that your clutch plates may need replacing


they can warp and generally get out of shape and also what is called dished will explain that one if I really need to


also try blipping the throttle when changing from 1st to neutral this can help when you have warped/dished plates

- Will give this a try

does it do it all the time or just when warm?

- I only noticed it by the time I was nearly home.. so warm.

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Its not normal for any bike to do this


the main culprits are what I mentioned above


some bikes have problems with detent springs and star drives but its not very common


wrong levers and out of adjustment are the most common followed by shagged clutch plates


I had the issue for 6 years on the TL until one day I finally replaced all the plates and it was as good as new

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Its not normal for any bike to do this


the main culprits are what I mentioned above


some bikes have problems with detent springs and star drives but its not very common


wrong levers and out of adjustment are the most common followed by shagged clutch plates


I had the issue for 6 years on the TL until one day I finally replaced all the plates and it was as good as new

I'll give it another few rides to make sure and will also adjust the levers so there is a little more movement before it bites, if nothing comes of that I'll get the bits you mentioned looked at, thanks :)

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check the lever free play too


I put up with it on my old bike for 6 years so there is no great rush :wink:

I did notice you said you'd waited 6 years which put me at ease :P

 

Get a Kwak. when stationary you can only go into n from 1st :lol:

Same happens on this, engine off and clutch pulled in... no matter how many times you press that damn gear lever it wont go into 1st BEFORE you start it up... I'm guessing that's a security thing so you can't start it in 1st, but the tt needs the clutch engaged to start anyway. Bloody over-complicated things :P

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