Mr Fro Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 I had a look through the info Speedy put up.The second one is copy&paste of the first one with value added opinion.The information is poorly presented and although it references ISO5011,it appears that the tests were carried out otherwise in accordance with that standard e.g. incorrect dust grade used, no mention of whether filters were oiled as appropriate, how the filters were prepared etc...I think it's an interesting one-off test although before accepting the findings, I would like to see a full, properly prepared report on more than one sample or each filter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SometimesSansEngine Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 Well this is what came out, no idea if its condition can be described as good, bad or indifferent More importantly what does the other side look like ? I didn't bother originally as it looked so dull, which I presume is a good thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Well this is what came out, no idea if its condition can be described as good, bad or indifferent More importantly what does the other side look like ? I didn't bother originally as it looked so dull, which I presume is a good thing Yep , its a very good thing , all the visible shit is on the right side of the filter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 I had a look through the info Speedy put up.The second one is copy&paste of the first one with value added opinion.The information is poorly presented and although it references ISO5011,it appears that the tests were carried out otherwise in accordance with that standard e.g. incorrect dust grade used, no mention of whether filters were oiled as appropriate, how the filters were prepared etc...I think it's an interesting one-off test although before accepting the findings, I would like to see a full, properly prepared report on more than one sample or each filter. Oh nooo ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SometimesSansEngine Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 More importantly what does the other side look like ? I didn't bother originally as it looked so dull, which I presume is a good thing Yep , its a very good thing , all the visible shit is on the right side of the filter. That's grand, in that case I'm in a happy place where I maybe didn't need to change it yet, but at least now I know the date and miles it was last changed, know I wasn't riding it with potential issues being caused & learnt a little about how my bike is put together too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 I didn't bother originally as it looked so dull, which I presume is a good thing Yep , its a very good thing , all the visible shit is on the right side of the filter. That's grand, in that case I'm in a happy place where I maybe didn't need to change it yet, but at least now I know the date and miles it was last changed, know I wasn't riding it with potential issues being caused & learnt a little about how my bike is put together too Possibly, but it is quite dirty and there is likely to be some restriction in air flow so a new filter wouldn't be a bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SometimesSansEngine Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 Will be looking forward to the gain of 100bhp tomorrow. Will try not to sneeze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerontious Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Honda recommend 16000 mile interval for the air filter change and I find it highly amusing just how many owners think that they know better. The change is a bit of a rigmarole compared to some bikes (there are two filters one on each side of the bike) though easier if it's done at the same time as the rest of the 16k major service. But that doesn't seem to stop them, they go through all the fairing removal and then discover that the filter isn't very dirty. A clue should be that performance is just the same as ever. But, they change the filters anyway. Mostly at 8k or sometimes less. I just don't understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SometimesSansEngine Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 That's interesting [mention]Gerontious[/mention], I would have assumed that as an off road type bike its servicing intervals would be a lot more regular than that. The ER6F manual says clean every 7.5k miles and replace every two years. Mind you, the owners manual also says that only an authorised Kawasaki dealer should do it.... I'd also assume rightly or wrong that for the sake of a filter a dealer would just put a new one in rather than cleaning it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerontious Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 That's interesting @Gerontious, I would have assumed that as an off road type bike its servicing intervals would be a lot more regular than that. The ER6F manual says clean every 7.5k miles and replace every two years. Mind you, the owners manual also says that only an authorised Kawasaki dealer should do it.... I'd also assume rightly or wrong that for the sake of a filter a dealer would just put a new one in rather than cleaning i[mention]Gerontious[/mention] My comment was only about Uk and northern Europeans. I can well understand that riders in much drier environments, like the desert states in America or the Middle East might need to change the filters more frequently and the owners manual likely has something to say about that.. But I'm not in a position right now to check. (My bad) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SometimesSansEngine Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 You mean you didn't take your owners manual with you over there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowlycatchymonkey Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 So glad I missed this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerontious Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 You mean you didn't take your owners manual with you over there? No... But I wish I had, in fact if the baggage allowance was a bit more generous I would have happily brought the bike, waited until the boy wonder was safely tucked up and gone out for a bimble. I can see a bit of a mountain not far from here and it has a very inviting and enticing looking road climbing up the side. It might be little more than a track or path, but I can dream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRH Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Who need air filters when trumpets will do.Lotus in the Gaydon car museum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Who need air filters when trumpets will do.3EE37A12-92F3-4507-A795-D4CBDC8F0DA3.jpegA9297A9B-F9CD-411C-ACA7-478A37B0F6AB.jpegLotus in the Gaydon car museumAnswer.....people who don't like fitting new inlet valve guides every 10000 miles...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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