Keenanm34 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 (edited) Hello am new to this. I want to buy a pioneer xf cruiser. Can anyone help me please. Thanks Martin Edited September 11, 2021 by Keenanm34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonio Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Ok, but I guess you're expecting the "why not buy a secondhand Jap bike instead?" thing, so here it is: why not buy a Honda Shadow? You'll not regret it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keenanm34 Posted September 9, 2021 Author Share Posted September 9, 2021 Thanks for your reply. 1st time bike so can’t go more than 250. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keenanm34 Posted September 9, 2021 Author Share Posted September 9, 2021 Meant 125 ops… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonio Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 There's a 125 shadow. Stopped making them in 2009, but still plenty around I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keenanm34 Posted September 9, 2021 Author Share Posted September 9, 2021 Thanks. Will look into it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keenanm34 Posted September 9, 2021 Author Share Posted September 9, 2021 https://www.gumtree.com/motorbikes-scooters/bromley/honda-motorbikes?adRemoved=true whats your view on this one. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keenanm34 Posted September 9, 2021 Author Share Posted September 9, 2021 15 hours ago, bonio said: There's a 125 shadow. Stopped making them in 2009, but still plenty around I think. https://www.gumtree.com/motorbikes-scooters/bromley/honda-motorbikes?adRemoved=true what you think about this one. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonio Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 (edited) Can't see it... Edited September 10, 2021 by bonio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonio Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 (edited) This one looks good https://www.autotrader.co.uk/bike-details/202109016867999 Edited September 10, 2021 by bonio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonio Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 I hadn't realised they're so hard to find The other one on autotrader looks ok as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keenanm34 Posted September 11, 2021 Author Share Posted September 11, 2021 Looking for any type of cruiser 125. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynax Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 What's your budget are you looking for used or new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggie Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 I had a Suzuki intruder for years. Served me well and taught me a lot about basic repairs & maintenance. A lot of road presence for a 125 as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeHorton Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Depends on your price bracket 2 cheapest Chinese offerings which as long as you maintain them ain't badly priced https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LEXMOTO-MICHIGAN-125CC-NEW-MOTORBIKE-FINANCE-AVAILABLE-DIRECT-DELIVERY-/124534580908?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UM-RENEGADE-SPORT-S-125-very-low-mileage-/255128143600?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonio Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) Yamaha Virago is another to add to your list. Or this https://www.autotrader.co.uk/bike-details/202108316815483?advertising-location=at_bikes looks like a real cracker Edited September 11, 2021 by bonio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeHorton Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 I had the 250 virago in 1995 great build quality. They still use the 250 engine in the lexmoto vendetta and the bullit 250s. However if I had to chose a modern 125 it would be the cb125f for practicality with the new eps engine really frugal on the fuel or the zontes g125 for styling and nice 15bhp liquid cooled engine buck the trend of cheap Chinese seem really good quality the 310s are nice machines too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynax Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 9 hours ago, MikeHorton said: Depends on your price bracket 2 cheapest Chinese offerings which as long as you maintain them ain't badly priced https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LEXMOTO-MICHIGAN-125CC-NEW-MOTORBIKE-FINANCE-AVAILABLE-DIRECT-DELIVERY-/124534580908?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UM-RENEGADE-SPORT-S-125-very-low-mileage-/255128143600?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0 My personal preference would be the UM ( even though finding parts is a problem at the moment ) because the riding position is more comfortable for me compared to the Michigan ( personal opinion ), mainly due to the ape like bars unlike the UM which has flatter bars so your arms are pretty much level, but bars can be changed so not much of an issue, also not keen on the footplates much prefer the pegs. There are plenty of chinese cruisers about you have the Sinnis Hoodlum, Hyosung Aquila, Lexmoto Michigan as mentioned, there are some new stock of UM's arriving within the next couple of months which have several different styles of cruiser. Having owned a UM for 2 1/2 years I can confidently recommend them, yes I have had a couple of problems mainly the mechanical seal but I did rectify that, but that was the only major problem I had with it, I have had no electrical problems, no engine problems, and most importantly no rust problems and it hasn't melted from being in the rain. I do all my own servicing and maintainence on it to make sure it is done and it is regularly washed and polished. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeHorton Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 31 minutes ago, dynax said: My personal preference would be the UM ( even though finding parts is a problem at the moment ) because the riding position is more comfortable for me compared to the Michigan ( personal opinion ), mainly due to the ape like bars unlike the UM which has flatter bars so your arms are pretty much level, but bars can be changed so not much of an issue, also not keen on the footplates much prefer the pegs. There are plenty of chinese cruisers about you have the Sinnis Hoodlum, Hyosung Aquila, Lexmoto Michigan as mentioned, there are some new stock of UM's arriving within the next couple of months which have several different styles of cruiser. Having owned a UM for 2 1/2 years I can confidently recommend them, yes I have had a couple of problems mainly the mechanical seal but I did rectify that, but that was the only major problem I had with it, I have had no electrical problems, no engine problems, and most importantly no rust problems and it hasn't melted from being in the rain. I do all my own servicing and maintainence on it to make sure it is done and it is regularly washed and polished. UM seem quite Solid I know the scrambler is based on the derbi mulhacen which was a good bike. The hyosung seem nice and solid too. I'm guessing now is a good time to pick up some of the last euro 4 125s as a lot of the new 5s are a lot more at around 3k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynax Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, MikeHorton said: UM seem quite Solid I know the scrambler is based on the derbi mulhacen which was a good bike. The hyosung seem nice and solid too. I'm guessing now is a good time to pick up some of the last euro 4 125s as a lot of the new 5s are a lot more at around 3k. They are a solid bike and the build quality is pretty good, they are heavy though and would benefit from having the full 15BHP engine allowance than the 12 it currently has, but saying that it pulls well uphill and will cruise happily at 60-65 but I am not that big or heavy compared to some who might have an adverse effect on performance. The UM's used prices did go up because of the lack of availability and some did cash in, but I kept mine because I know it and have full confidence in it and I just love it, It rides and handles perfectly and this is why I have so many conflicting battles with myself regarding the licence and doing the tests, it just fits all my needs or at least the majority of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Help you do what exactly ? You've decided what you want so just buy one . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 On 10/09/2021 at 08:40, bonio said: This one looks good https://www.autotrader.co.uk/bike-details/202109016867999 It looks very shiny and well cared for but just to put things into perspective , for another thousand pounds you could choose from a wide range of equally well looked after Harley Davidson Sportsters including many C or custom models if chrome is your thing . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeHorton Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 hour ago, fastbob said: It looks very shiny and well cared for but just to put things into perspective , for another thousand pounds you could choose from a wide range of equally well looked after Harley Davidson Sportsters including many C or custom models if chrome is your thing . Ur right but for many money and licence is a limiting factor. My AT has no chrome I miss it in the summer but I'm glad I do t have it in the salty winters. I do like some of the latest Indian cruisers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keenanm34 Posted September 13, 2021 Author Share Posted September 13, 2021 19 hours ago, MikeHorton said: Ur right but for many money and licence is a limiting factor. My AT has no chrome I miss it in the summer but I'm glad I do t have it in the salty winters. I do like some of the latest Indian cruisers Indian cruisers. What’s the make and model please I will have a look. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeHorton Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 K 17 minutes ago, Keenanm34 said: Indian cruisers. What’s the make and model please I will have a look. Thanks The make is Indian but they are big bikes not 125s I'm afraid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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