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How to swerve to avoid a collision?


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Hi all,


I have heard that the new bike test has a swerve manouevre, which I never learned to do because I took the old (current) bike test a month or so ago.


I have not yet had to swerve, dodge or otherwise shit my pants due to the behaviour of an unobservant car driver, but given the number of miles that I ride I fully anticipate having do swerve someone at some point in the future!


So ... how does one sweve effectively? and are there any situations in which it would be better to collide, upright with the car (or whatever) rather than try to swerve it and potentially go sliding under the wheels?


I know this is a particularly morbid subject, but I'll need to know one day, preferably sooner rather than later!


I must say that I have so far avoided the need to swerve round idiots by watching them from a distance and thinking, "Yep, that person is not paying attention and they are just about to pull out!" ... and guess what ... the f**kwits usually do ... ! by which time I have braked and am already giving them a mouthful!

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Unfortunately a difficult answer to question. Every situation requires a different action....


My only view is that rubber connected to the tarmac slowing you down is going to slow you down better than your bike's crash bungs, handlebars and fairing sliding down the tarmac.

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As an advanced rider I would hope to never have to swerve!


What a ridiculous thing. If you observe and read the road then there should be no need to do rash maneouvres.


Anticipation, riding to what can be seen, what can't be seen, but what reasonably may occur should be the standard.


You appaer to do this now, but forget the 'mouthful' bit. Accept it is their mistake, and have a better attitude than them.

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Had a cat run out on me last week, doing about 40 (me, not the cat :lol: ). Appeared from nowhere and it just ran... didn't even seem to notice me. I slammed on the anchors as much as the conditions would let me and was still going to hit said pussy. So, with nothing behind or oncoming i released the brakes and swerved around its back end just as it passed right in front of me - blissfully unaware of the miniature heart attack it had just caused.


That was my introduction to the swerve manoeuvre...


Question for more experienced bikers, was i right to release the brakes before attempting the swerve... it seemed natural at the time?

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Had a cat run out on me last week, doing about 40 (me, not the cat :lol: ). Appeared from nowhere and it just ran... didn't even seem to notice me. I slammed on the anchors as much as the conditions would let me and was still going to hit said hairymary. So, with nothing behind or oncoming i released the brakes and swerved around its back end just as it passed right in front of me - blissfully unaware of the miniature heart attack it had just caused.


That was my introduction to the swerve manoeuvre...


Question for more experienced bikers, was i right to release the brakes before attempting the swerve... it seemed natural at the time?

 

i would have just hit it :lol:


yeah best to release the brakes bike moves easier and less risk of loosing the front :)

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The test is "avoiding an obstacle at a minimum speed of 50 km/h (approx. 31 mph)".


Could either stopping, or relatively fast reduction of speed to safely manoeuvre around obstacle at a lower speed be an acceptable method of avoidance rather than to swerve?

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first i've heard of this!

we'd better wait for clarification!

take avoiding action doesn't have to mean swerve!

you could brake, steer away or even accelerate I suppose.


swerve just doesn't sound like something I'd want to be doing :lol:

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As an advanced rider I would hope to never have to swerve!


What a ridiculous thing. If you observe and read the road then there should be no need to do rash maneouvres.


Anticipation, riding to what can be seen, what can't be seen, but what reasonably may occur should be the standard.


You appaer to do this now, but forget the 'mouthful' bit. Accept it is their mistake, and have a better attitude than them.

 

I agree.........

 

So ... how does one sweve effectively?

....any sudden change of direction i.e. swerve stands a good chance of ending in tears and so does practising such maneuvers so going back to what Hoody said, observation is your best defence. That said, we can all make mistakes and things can go wrong, effective breaking is a good thing to practice but otherwise experience is what you'll have to count on.


As I said we all make mistakes......look at my avatar! :oops:


Acouple of phrases we use on my local IAM groups' website :-)


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Have you ever gone into a corner thinking sh*t…sh*t…sh*t!


Avoid the sh*t - Learn to ride to a system

A skill for life - IAM Advanced Rider Training

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'suddenly' is the most frequently used description after an accident


Take the suddenly out of your riding - Learn to ride to a system

A skill for life - IAM Advanced Rider Training

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Motorcyclists represent just 1% of road miles covered but 25% of those killed or seriously injured on UK roads


Break the mould NOT your body - Learn to ride to a system


A SKILL FOR LIFE

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http://www.cvam-advanced-riders.co.uk/


Find an IAM group in your area

http://www.iam.org.uk/iamgroups/groupdirectory/

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