Roadtorque Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I've got three lids,, One £200, One £99 & one open face £45 quid,, Now the thing is dispite the difference in price they all have one thing in common,, a clasp chin strap with quick release,,So the first helmet I bought is showing it's age & is due for renewal ( the £99 quid one ) I'll treat myself, but no hurry, the suns not shinning yet,,so in anticipation of a good summer I've started looking round at whats on offer & the choice is wide and varied,, but the one thing that stands out like a sore thumb, while most helmets have the clasp & quick release, the£300+ lids still seem to stick with the double D ring fastners,, Nice Lid,, Nice & light ,, But sorry not for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 i prefer the double d fastners myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nman1 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I too had the clip strap on my first lid and thought I`d never be able to master the double d one. After a few goes it`s a piece of pi**. It adjusts itselfe to compemsate for when you have a thick winter neck buff or a thin summer one on. The lid always feels secure. Don`t be put off a good helmet because of the strap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollazuki Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 It shows you who the lid is aimed at Id say. Race rules insist on a double D ring fastener, so any lid with a seatbelt buckle affair cant be used on a track.Easier to fasten with gloves on tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Double D for me Always had the D ring, feel very confident with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nman1 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 You got the double D posting too TC Ooops you edited it before my post came up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monotone Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 My CBT instructor gave the opinion that D ring straps were safer, in that they would hold the helmet on better in a crash, but I don't know if he was talking from experience or just made it up. I think he was reasoning along the lines of "more expensive = safer". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 i prefer the double d fastners myself wouldnt have it any other way, feels safe, feels secure and made of metal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyKnuckle Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Double D fasteners are the bee's knees, the cat's pyjamas, the snake's hips, the kipper's knickers, the dog's bollocks.......I think you get my point.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadtorque Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 OK Guys, I hear what you all say, but I'm still not convinced,,as most of you will know I started Riding in the 50'shelmets were not compulsory, but I always wore one,, at that time the D ring fastners was used on almost every helmet going,,It was the chin strap at the D ring area that all ways showed wear first,,when you think about it, pulling a strap though a U turn (required by the D ring system) & pulling it tight, over a period of time it must create a weakness at that point,,,,,,,,,,,,,Think of it as the shoe lace principle, they all ways break at the point of most wear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Miller Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I was told/lead to believe that over time, the straps will give. Everytime you do up the D ring, you'll be pulling it tight, whereas with the seat-belt type ones you might be more loose than you should be!It sounds plausible..........I think?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin the Bear Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Have had both. The seat belt type is more convenient but being a normal lazy type person I tended to neglect the adjustment and consequently the helmet is not fitted properly. With the double d ring the adjustment is part of putting it on and can't be neglected. The inbuilt wear and tear on the strap automatically points out when the time comes to change the helmet. My current helmet is a Vemar with d ring fastener and cost £60. Safety gear is just that. If it don't fit , it may be worse than not wearing it. You don't need to spend a fortune to get top notch gear. Some unfortunately are self conscious and need the reassurance of expense or Brand or paint job. Would you buy good looking tyres or pay more for your brakes on the basis of colour?Keep it simple and change it regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadtorque Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 All you say is quite true Colin, My two main helmets are flip front & clunk click typeone is a Nolan wired for sound for bike to bike, the other is an Airoh Matisse I use when I'm out on my own ,,now the matisse is brilliant, push the two ends togethertill it locks, then there's a lever that lets you pull the strap an extra couple of notchesif required,,,,,Why flip fronts???? well first I like them & second I wear glasses & it's easier to getthem on or off,, other benifits I don't have to take my lid of every time I stop & I don't get hassle at filling stations,,but I suppose lids are like bikes,, it's each to his own,,, D ring fastners,, no I don't think so,,,But then again, you never know,,, If the right helmet smiles at me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bex Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 the D ring for me to , and tbh materials used in the strap have moved on since your young days and they dont wear that quickly, most helmets are designed to be changed within 5 years anyway so you need be reassured that you wont have any problems. as has been said it gets tightened everytime you put your lid on where as i never used to alter my chick fix one and it would end up far to loose by the time i altered it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadtorque Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 the D ring for me to , and tbh materials used in the strap have moved on since your young days and they dont wear that quickly, most helmets are designed to be changed within 5 years anyway so you need be reassured that you wont have any problems. as has been said it gets tightened everytime you put your lid on where as i never used to alter my chick fix one and it would end up far to loose by the time i altered it. Cheers Bex,,, Diplomacy at it's best That's you on my Christmas Card list for next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rennie Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 my new lid is the clunk click type but i think i prefer the d rings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I find the D ring thing much easier to get nice and snug. Modern straps won't wear out faster than you are supposed to change the lid anyway.I had a mini-seatbelt type lid borrowed from the training school when I did my back to biking, and couldn't get on with it at all - had to ask the instructor to unclip me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_on_a_bike Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Those seat belt things are designed to come undone aren't they really, whatever is holding it in can be released with the great big button on the side. Once the Double D is on, it's a fiddle to get it off even if you want it to, that couldn't happen accidentally. Also, becasue everytime you put a double D on you're resetting the tention, it's always right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratser Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 My helmet has the quick release fastening.Not long after buying I had a problem with it unfastening on it's own.Then I found that just because it was new the release button was a little stiff.Is ok now, but once pressing the button you have to push it up.However today I bought a new Arai GT Viper Sinister which has the double d rings.Will take some getting used to, but it's not something that bothers me much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Prefer D rings, but take whatever the lid I choose has, that is seatbelt type at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratser Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 However today I bought a new Arai GT Viper Sinister which has the double d rings.Will take some getting used to, but it's not something that bothers me much. This is the one I purchased. http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u31/Ratser/Bike/Araisinister.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Miller Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I've seen that one before Ratty - it's a real looker!!!Just be carefull and try not to find out if it works properly, what with all the snow & ice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratser Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Yeh no danger of my bike turning a wheel while the white stuff is about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Miller Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Don't blame you, son!Stay in and keep warm! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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