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No british GP winners "For FCUK sake"


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This might have been talked about before, so please forgive for wasting your time. I am sick and f**king tiired of watching gp after gp, where there is not a British guy on the podium, year after year, Im not talking super bikes here. What has it got to take to get a british guy in the top 3, are we just a waste of space when it come to moto gp. I love watching moto gp, and going to watch races live. for fucks sake how much longer can this carry on for, it seems like forever.

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J T will be leave Moto GP and return to superbikes sooner rather than later , I want a brit in the top 3 not last 3. Australia has come up with stoner, a young lad just out of nappys, Spain has more than you can throw a stick at. And what do we have. the list below. " One Brit in the whole list. Please someone tell me why we havent seen one of our guys in a race for the title and why we wont for a very long time.

To all those people who travel to the often wet british GP, year in year out only to witness another overseas winner.

Spain ,Italy ,Spain ,Australia ,Italy, Italy, Italy, Finland.

1. Jorge Lorenzo (Spain) Yamaha 43:47.238

2. Valentino Rossi (Italy) Yamaha 43:48.542

3. Dani Pedrosa (Spain) Honda 43:51.001

4. Casey Stoner (Australia) Ducati 43:52.929

5. Andrea Dovizioso (Italy) Honda 43:56.445

6. Marco Melandri (Italy) Kawasaki 44:17.793

7. Loris Capirossi (Italy) Suzuki 44:19.994

8. Mika Kallio (Finland) Ducati 44:26.654

9. James Toseland (Britain) Yamaha 44:30.344

10. Chris Vermeulen (Australia) Suzuki 44:30.483

11. Randy de Puniet (France) Honda 44:32.072

12. Colin Edwards (U.S.) Yamaha 44:33.778

13. Alex de Angelis (San Marino) Honda 44:40.763

14. Niccolo Canepa (Italy) Ducati 45:09.042

15. Toni Elias (Spain) Honda + 1 Lap

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I have read and heard the Uk has kinda adopted Rossi, " The Doctor" he lives in london or did, and we feel he´s one of us. How f**king sad is that, that we have to feel the need to adopted a overseas rider.

I once read the British grave Disappointment, I think its true.

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you name the sport and england are shite at it.....


football, not won a world cup since 66 (everyone still bangs on about it tho :roll: )


few sports we have some good players in, cricket, rugby think there about it.

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Who cares about nationality anyway ?

It a crock of shit.

In the same way I couldn't care less if there were no home grown players in my club football team as long as they are winning.

Nationality IS NOT the most important thing in the world.

What you want to see is a real RACE, and not someone way out in front and coasting. IMO of course.

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To Mr ratser maybe you coud shed some light on why there are no british riders in the front running in moto gp, putting aside the nationality thing.

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Aye... I think Bradley Smith might well be our next hope...


Drop into Newbies and introduce yourself Wilki.

 


i think if you look at the way some of the brits are doing in WSB there could be a shot at GP for some of them on the horizon...

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That'll be us reaping the fruits of our motorcycle youth training scheme then! :roll:


Britain will produce great riders year on year. When it promotes a healthy pro active, non discriminate, equal terms, approach to bikers in general.


(Don't hold your breath people! :( )

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To Mr ratser maybe you coud shed some light on why there are no british riders in the front running in moto gp, putting aside the nationality thing.

 

because there shit.....that help :lol:

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To Mr ratser maybe you coud shed some light on why there are no british riders in the front running in moto gp, putting aside the nationality thing.

 

No idea and am not bothered either.

But maybe Phil is onto something.

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Personally, I couldn't give a crap what nationality they are. I watch motogp to watch great motorcycle racing (clearly I am sometimes disappointed!) and if the winner is Italian, Australian, Spanish or whatever it doesn't detract from my enjoyment. It's not about some confused sense of patriotism for me, it's just about good sport...


Be a good sport and watch the racing. We're all the same bar the passports you know...

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I too like to watch close racing, and yes I agree it doesnt matter who comes from where, take the title race between Sete Gibernau & valentino Rossi a few years back, amazing to watch. But my 1st Q was, Why britain doesnt have more men doing well in moto gp. But I think its been so long since we did well, we have sort of given up, and have learnt to except it, and as you say, "as long as its a good race"

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Actually I think its more to do with the opportunities TBH am sure there is talent in this country but theres no real infrastructure to nurture it.


The italian and spanish probably more so have better quality champpionships for the youngsters and have more access to sponsorship from an early age thats why Brad smith went over there and as a result is doing quite well at the moment.


But then theres the youngest ever British gp winner from last year Scott Redding!


Admittadly its 125's!

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I agree with both comments on here. I'm personally not bothered about the nationalities of the riders in MotoGP, WSB, BSB and all the others. But at the same time it does give you a extra boost when someone from your home country wins.


It's like watching a sport and then watching the same sport with money on the outcome. It just gives you an extra peak of interest.


Personally I think we have seen the best of JT. He'll have a few good results this year but to be honest I don't see any other riders than Lorenzo, Rossi, Stoner, Pedrosa, Dovi and Vermuelen making a podium this year.


I think if some guys like Rea, Crutchlow and Laverty were given the opportunity then they could possible perform quite well.


Rea has always done quite well and is beating MotoGP star Checa at present with a bike which is not performing well with the control tyre. Who knows what would have happened if he had been allowed to ride for Team Roberts in the Donington GP a few years ago.


Laverty is now proving what he can do, lets be honest he's been riding crap machinary in 250GP for the last few years.


These guys are all young and could if given the chance make a good go of things in MotoGP but at the same time let us be honest. The best they can hope for is a satelitte team which means they will need sponsorship and British riders struggle for Sponsorship, just like Brawn GP is struggling.


If a Formula 1 team that has won 3 out of the 4 races can't get sponsorship what chances do our riders have? :cry:

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Wilki !!!! Get yourself out onto a race track Dude !and try it yourself . When you win something , anything ! let us all know how easy it was . ............ " FCUK Sake " a little respect for talent wouldnt go a miss here .

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So what your really saying is britain lacks talent, if is does not, how come britain does not have moto gp winners,

I did not say racing is easy, and I take my hat off to the guys who do it,

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So what your really saying is britain lacks talent, if is does not, how come britain does not have moto gp winners,

I did not say racing is easy, and I take my hat off to the guys who do it,

NO ! im not saying britain has no talent .( far From It ) A British rider has been crowned the best in the world many many times in my life time ( On two wheels im talking about here . ) at all levels . What we need to remember here, regarding moto GP racing is there has been a long long run of champions winning hands down ( that are not from the uk ) , Thay have so much raw talent and super skilled at what thay do , Other Fantastic and brilliant races like J T and the like look like that aint trying at all . . Thay are the best in the entire world today and are on track racing against a few men that are living legends in the making Last years champion in moto GP is the best this planet has ever seen and in the fullness of time will be remebered as the greatest ever . One day we may get to see a race winner from a diff location ( who realy cares where thay may be from ) . But untill then all hail the man in the limelight and repect the guys out there doing what comes natural to them .
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Toseland is a fantastic rider, there is no arguement about that. But when the other three Yamaha's are finishing inside the top 5 most of the time and JT is struggling to make it inside the top 10 it doesn't bode well for JT for 2010.


I think the post season switch and bad publicity has caused JT's downfall. He is now trying too hard to prove a point and instead of going faster.... well he's just not.

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