dreadycraig Posted May 12, 2009 Posted May 12, 2009 Does anyoneride their bike with the chain joined with the split link? I have heard that they are dangerous, but why would a chain manufacturer supply a split link if it is not suitable for the job? Quote
Stu Posted May 12, 2009 Posted May 12, 2009 no i dont and this is for you http://www.trainfortopdollar.com/trainfortopdollar/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/canofworms1.jpg Quote
dreadycraig Posted May 12, 2009 Author Posted May 12, 2009 I have, I wouldn't again.Is that because it broke or just because you didn't trust it? Quote
Alex Gold Posted May 12, 2009 Posted May 12, 2009 no i dont Ok...how do you get a new chain on without a split link - you'd have to take the swingarm out surely? I suppose it's not a major inconvenience... Quote
Voodoo Posted May 12, 2009 Posted May 12, 2009 They tend to be ok for upto a 125cc, but they do come apart sometimes. With larger bikes I usually fit a new chain and sprockets myself, fit the split link, then ride to the motorbike shop so they can fit a rivet link for me. Quote
Guest Posted May 12, 2009 Posted May 12, 2009 used to always have them on my CBR600 and never had a problem. The 1000 chains are always riveted and always do them myself. Quote
Stu Posted May 12, 2009 Posted May 12, 2009 a split link can easily fall off you should join the chain with a rivette miles safer the ends get turned over and the side plate cant come off ive had split links come off a chain but luckily didnt come apart the side plate stayed where it should Ok...how do you get a new chain on without a split link - you'd have to take the swingarm out surely? I suppose it's not a major inconvenience... chains arent continouse the have two ends until you fit them to the bike and add a link with a rivette making them continouse Quote
Alex Gold Posted May 12, 2009 Posted May 12, 2009 Got it - I thought a rivet link was called a split link too...I do have a continuous chain in the garage, not too sure what to do with it. Quote
Bogof Posted May 12, 2009 Posted May 12, 2009 Got it - I thought a rivet link was called a split link too...I do have a continuous chain in the garage, not too sure what to do with it. Trade it in for a blunt knife so you too can castrate basta*ds Quote
Alex Gold Posted May 12, 2009 Posted May 12, 2009 I could take it with me and use it in the 'Road Rash' style?http://www.gamershell.com/static/screenshots/5998/227387_full.jpg Quote
cyberwolf Posted May 12, 2009 Posted May 12, 2009 http://www.trainfortopdollar.com/trainfortopdollar/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/canofworms1.jpg dose chips come with them Quote
rosszx9r Posted May 13, 2009 Posted May 13, 2009 chains arent continouse the have two ends until you fit them to the bike and add a link with a rivette making them continouse continuos chains are common and in fact recomended for some larger bikes.it is routine to have to remove the swingarm pivot bolt to get the new chain on. having said that, unless you've got the special tools for the swing arm removal, the rivet link is much easier.just bought a link splitter/riveter to change the chain on my zx9r as it costs £80 for the special kawasaki socket to slacken the swingarm locknut at least with the splitter i can use it on any bike. Quote
truxx Posted May 13, 2009 Posted May 13, 2009 I have allways used split link chains on my <--600cc bikes but anything over that i actually prefer the endless(although i have never had a split link fail on me)As for fitting endless chains,i tend to use a grinder and a center punch to remove links as needed and some mole grips with an old nut on them to squash the new stopper plate onto the chain.Then a hammer and block to roll the end of the pins. Quote
Stu Posted May 13, 2009 Posted May 13, 2009 continuos chains are common and in fact recomended for some larger bikes.it is routine to have to remove the swingarm pivot bolt to get the new chain on. having said that, unless you've got the special tools for the swing arm removal, the rivet link is much easier.just bought a link splitter/riveter to change the chain on my zx9r as it costs £80 for the special kawasaki socket to slacken the swingarm locknut at least with the splitter i can use it on any bike. what joins each side plate of the chain to the next ?a rivette so its not continouse till you join the two ends together with the rivette which is the same as you doing it yourself with the right tools! Quote
rosszx9r Posted May 14, 2009 Posted May 14, 2009 what joins each side plate of the chain to the next ?a rivette so its not continouse till you join the two ends together with the rivette which is the same as you doing it yourself with the right tools! you're right that a chain is a series of rivet links but it's the bit about 'the right tools' that makes the difference. if the joints are done by the manufacturer the join will be better quality and the chain is less likely to have a weak point as all links will be the same strength.i've only ever had one chain fail on me and that was a split link connection on a chain fitted to a VFR750. i didn't realise until it snapped that it was a split link (never looked too closely until i was sat at the side of the raod waiting for the AA man to come along!) i replaced it with a riveted link and that was fine for years.i don't believe there is a huge difference between an endless and a properly riveted link unless you really thrash the bike or go on track days in which case i'd definately recomend continuous. the spring clip type split links are fine for bikes with less than ~50bhp. having said that, it's the torque that would snap the chain so if in doubt, go with what the manufacturer recomends. Quote
Stu Posted May 14, 2009 Posted May 14, 2009 i don't believe there is a huge difference between an endless and a properly riveted link unless you really thrash the bike or go on track days in which case i'd definately recomend continuous. personally i dont think there is any difference as the rivette you use is the same quality as the rest of them so no weaker then the rest you only have to turn the ends of the rivette over to stop the side plate coming off which is a interference fit too so is already tight!! Quote
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