chrisgatguis Posted May 17, 2009 Posted May 17, 2009 Hi all,got my 'new' bike now... here we go again. probably going to be doing a few bits and bobs over the coming weeks but this time with the view of keeping the bike long term (its much quicker than the GS was and I think I'll be happy with it for much longer)..So first problem here we go!just had a little look behind the front wheel - the down pipes aren't in amazing condition but are air tight and not too bad so please try look past that! (probs get them painted at some point!).Between the two downpipes on the LHS of the bike, there is a small 's bend' pipe which seems to come down from the head.its about 4 or 5 inches long and maybe an inch or less diameter.On the RHS this pipe is dry (if not a bit rusty/ corrosion looking) but on the LHS the pipe is quite wet (looks black in the picture). below this on the engine there is a bit of oil there also...I've looked on Alpha Sports website http://www.alpha-sports.com/suzuki_parts.htm? under 1998, GSX600F on #42 there is the oil pump pipes which is about the only thing which looks the same.Does anyone know if this deffinitely is the oil pump pipe, and whats the best bet to fix this, it seems to be the actual seal at the top of the pipe thats causing this as nothing above that point has any signs of leaking.Is this a very bad problem? should i not ride it etc? bit worried as i've only just bought the bike... but i'm always up for a bit of tinkering!Cheers Chris Quote
Guest Posted May 18, 2009 Posted May 18, 2009 looks and sounds liek the o-ring has perished. should be easy enough, just depnd on how much has to be removed to get to it.. manifold? and them bolts dont look theyve been moved anytime lately.. if your going to attempt it i would give the bolts plenty of wd40 or better, and get a long allen key socket then you can use a socket set to undo, but be wary the bolts may break.. Quote
chrisgatguis Posted May 18, 2009 Author Posted May 18, 2009 Hi Walney,I'm not entirely sure how the pipe is actually attached it looks like it just pushes inside but would have thought that can't be right because you would have thought it wouldn't be strong enough I can physically get my hand in to it, I've got the Haynes manual but the only point they have it in (that i could see) is when your replacing the head gasket and as part of it you remove / replace that pipe and O ring!.Hmm think i need a closer look really! Quote
Colin the Bear Posted May 18, 2009 Posted May 18, 2009 It must fit from inside the head then. To be replaced by removing the head.As good an all rounder WD40 is , it's not the best penetrating oil on the market. Get yourself some dedicated penetrating oil preferably containing graphite and let it soak for 24 hours. Quote
Guest Posted May 18, 2009 Posted May 18, 2009 Hi Walney,I'm not entirely sure how the pipe is actually attached it looks like it just pushes inside but would have thought that can't be right because you would have thought it wouldn't be strong enough I can physically get my hand in to it, I've got the Haynes manual but the only point they have it in (that i could see) is when your replacing the head gasket and as part of it you remove / replace that pipe and O ring!.Hmm think i need a closer look really! if you look at the diagram, it has a ridged edge, which will keep it in place, plus if its the o-ring and not the tube you wont be able to get it out..Colin, agreed WD-40 isn't the best for this, have used other sprays that are rust penetrating sprays rather than electrical waterproofing ones, but can't think of the names, something-ease and plusgas come to mind, Quote
chrisgatguis Posted May 18, 2009 Author Posted May 18, 2009 okay just having a further look into it...The pipes just push into the cylinder head (top) and crankcase (bottom)..They are refered to as the 'oil drain pipes' in the Haynes, and the way you would remove them propperly would be to take the cylinder head off, and just pull the pipes out of the holes....Looking at the way they just 'push' in, (i know they are obviously held in by the weight/position of the head) but would this suggest that the oil here isn't presurised?? would possibly have thought they would need to be more secure than just pushed in?..The oil that has come out so far is very minimal, i.e. it hasn't actually dripped from the bike..couple of pics from the Haynes manual included. Quote
Guest Posted May 18, 2009 Posted May 18, 2009 you might get away with manipulating the hoses and fitting new o-rings.. let me know how you get on, as my gsx is the same lump....... Quote
Guest Posted May 18, 2009 Posted May 18, 2009 okay just having a further look into it...The pipes just push into the cylinder head (top) and crankcase (bottom)..They are refered to as the 'oil drain pipes' in the Haynes, and the way you would remove them propperly would be to take the cylinder head off, and just pull the pipes out of the holes....Looking at the way they just 'push' in, (i know they are obviously held in by the weight/position of the head) but would this suggest that the oil here isn't presurised?? would possibly have thought they would need to be more secure than just pushed in?..The oil that has come out so far is very minimal, i.e. it hasn't actually dripped from the bike..couple of pics from the Haynes manual included. they return the oil from the top of the engine into the sump, hence being drain pipes, so not under pressure.. Quote
chrisgatguis Posted May 18, 2009 Author Posted May 18, 2009 yeah thats what i was thinking,Think I'll just monitor it and see how much oil it goes through, might not got through hardly any.But yeah it may be possible like you say to apply a bit of force and get the pipe in place with the head still on.Let you know how i get on cheers Quote
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