you've totally misinterpreted what i said. I did not say that everyone should, as you put it, "race round with a three digit number on their speedo". Nor did I suggest that advanced riding was all about speed, because it rarely is. It is about concentration, ability and confidence. What I suggested was that any organisation who expects anyone of a decent standard not to speed slightly from time to time is being wholly unrealistic in their expectations. Even the police speed. I know several bike cops and they all break the speed limit from time to time if it's required to. I have been on rideouts with coppers and followed them down B roads at 85-90mph and it is not unsafe in the right conditions, and to teach that you shouldn't speed at all, ever, is absurd and short sighted. Speed has been a saviour to me in the past, and so I suggest that these 'groups' who tow the official line are as blinkered as the rest of this daft government, and should open their eyes to a bit of 'latitude' again - because if I'm following some idiot who refuses to exceed 60mph when overtaking a 20-ton lorry on a twisty B-road, then I'm going to wind open the taps and leave him to get hit by the next lunatic car driver who comes round the approaching bend, and to hell with what the law says about it.