1. "Best bike" is a very subjective thing. Best at what? Every year there is an award for European Best Car of the Year. Each year it is won by a bland family friendly hatchback which almost nobody I know would say they really want to get that car. But according to the voters it's the best. The only way to find what's best for you is to do the research, go look at, sit on, price up the bikes, and ride them once you have the appropriate licence. 2. Comments like this really boil my piss. Loads of forum members have taken time out to give good sound advice, and then you reveal that all you want is to dick around. If you're gonna do that on the road buy something old and tatty with engine bars cos you're gonna crash it ..... a lot! Best advice - pass your car test, buy a van, buy a motocrosser or track bike, then do your dicking around away from the roads we all use with a modicum of common Sense. Nothing personal dude - just my opinion Yea I know all that, but if I wanted something for practicality I'd get a car, i don't want a bike to get from point A to point B, diffident people like diffident type of riding, a for me a bike that will be more for fun, I'll still use it to get to college and back, I know people are giving me good advice and it's not like I'm saying that there advice is stupid or anything, a lot of the comments are helping, i just forgot to mention in the post what I'll be doing on the bike what I'll use it for so I'm just saying so that people understand what type of riding style is mine to help me figure out what the best option would be for me