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I absolutely assure you old chum that no copper wants to knock anyone off their bike unless it's absolutely necessary. Have you any idea how much paperwork you have to do if you slide a police car sideways between two massive embankments either side of a farmers field, with it being in so tight a tow truck has to come along and lift it out? I do and I thought it would never end despite there not being a mark on it. I don't even want to think about how much would be needed if an officer knocked off and killed some scrote! Except when they were given the power to do so, they started doing it left right and center. And then actually released their own video compilation https://www.visordown.com/news/general/watch-met-police-ram-moped-thugs-bikes It's never absolutely necessary, otherwise, the law would have been implemented years and years ago.

I disagree with that statement when used in such a blanket manner. Ramming bikes off of the road won't prevent anything. And it can easily be used to support absurdly wild statements such as "We should castrate all mentally ill people to stop them from reproducing". Besides, No that's not what I'm saying at all. People should be stopped. And if they refuse to stop, forcibly stopping them safely if necessary should absolutely be an option if they pose a significant risk to others around them. Otherwise, let them go. It's not like they will not have to deal with the consequences later. And the increased risk to others is by chasing them in an attempt to find an opportunity to force them off the road is often not worth it. It's the police' job to continually assess these factors and decide whether or not to continue the chase, attempt a forced stop, or call off the chase and catch them another way. However, there is no way to safely forcibly stop a motorcycle. So let them, go and catch them later, and let them deal with the consequences when they are caught safely. You can easily outrun a police car, you can't easily outrun the law. Which is exactly what happens now (mostly). Less risk to the public, less risk to the officers, less risk to the rider, less risk to the bike, lower insurance for all. Ramming bikes off the road will only result in good guys getting punished, bad guys adjusting their tactics and traffic police having power over life and death. None of those are good results.

Sorry, to be clear I didn't intend to imply all coppers abuse their power. Just that it's inevitable that some will and do. With regards to my driving away from a blue light in that hypothetical situation, it isn't an abuse of power because i'd likely do it regardless of what vehicle I was in, so power isn't a factor. And yes absolutely my actions could result in my own or someone else's death, but that would be a risk that I were taking and those would be my consequences to bare, all of which would be weighed up in the moment. When you give the police the power to knock people off of motorcycles, you are essentially removing those consequences from the officer and placing them on the state, effectively altering the officers' judgment in the moment. When you know you are less likely to be held responsible for the consequences of your actions, you are far more likely to be wreckless in your decisions.

Me and my Mrs get this very occasionally if I ride too far ahead and we disconnect. Happens maybe 1 in 10-20 times. Sometimes I can hear her but she can't hear me or vice verse or neither can hear. The solution for us is to turn them off and on again. I turn mine off and back on if we don't regain comms she turns hers off and on. Works almost every time.

That might be the problem now, but give coppers the power to commit manslaughter and there will be many other problems. They can't help but abuse the powers they already have.

Firstly I'm pretty new here, so I'm hesitant to throw out a vocal alternative view for fear of giving off a poor first impression. But in this case, I sort of feel I have to, so please excuse the incoming rant!!! Giving the police powers to knock people off of motorcycles is too much power for the police to have, you're essentially giving them the power of manslaughter. Now do these little feckers stealing bikes deserve it? In many cases,... perhaps... Is it a power the police should have? Absolutely not. It assumes that the police are always correct, and more importantly always hold the best intentions. Which certainly isn't the case. Here's an extremely contrived but perfectly possible example. You are called at work to say your daughter has been in a serious accident is in intensive care and you need to get the hospital as soon as possible. You took your bike to work. You nail it to the hospital and the police blue light you. You couldn't care less, you are stopping for no one, you will explain when you get there. The police chase you. Just as you get to the turning for the hospital you slow down to take a right turn at the island, the police car rams you off your bike and you are left dead, paralysed, unable to work or a multitude of other very possible scenarios. But hey, at least you got rammed outside of a hospital! Should you have stopped when you saw the blues? Probably. Would you have stopped? I probably wouldn't. Even putting the very contrived example to one side. All ramming thieves will do is cost the taxpayer a fortune in NHS bills, put bikers insurance up even higher, and get bikers there stolen bikes back in totalled condition, which results in the same insurance payout they'd have gotten anyway. It wont deter bike thieves,... they will just adapt and steal something else. Likely it will encourage them to steal faster bikes instead of mopeds, dirtbikes and 125's. I hate all this bike theft crap myself but giving the police the power to kill us is not the answer!

Arranged return of Mrs new cbr after having fork seal and cam pulse sensor fixed, they're going to deliver it to my work Tuesday, so I'll have to ride it 1 mile home with an engine mount missing. About to try and book it in with local mechanic to get the engine mounting welded. Because it's super wet I didn't feel like taking the Mrs' old SV650 to work, it's just so jerky at low speeds, it's horrible to ride around town when it's slippery. The gritters haven't been out in a while so I've taken my Suzi to work instead.

I appreciate everyone looking into this for me, advice given and time spent trying to find solutions. Thanks all. I can't justify selling the bike unless it's going to cost me more than £1k total to get it fixed... The bike is ideal for the Mrs in every way (besides the issues). And there's already a significant amount spent. Absolute worst case, I guess I'll just have to sell her old bike sooner than I wanted (was waiting for spring) and use some funds from that. After contacting a LOT of people, a guy at my local Honda centre put me in touch with a local self-employed mechanic/motorcycle dealer friend of his who knows a very good welder. He's contacting the welder for me with pictures to see if he will be able to do it with the engine in the frame. If not he says he can remove the engine from the frame, transport the engine to the welder and put the engine back in the frame at an estimate of about 5-6hrs labour at a very reasonable £36/hr plus an estimate of around £100 for the welding work. So I'm looking at around £400 as a high-end estimate at this point... painful, but next to the £1000+ estimates i've been getting, a hell of an improvement! I was going to put new plastics on it for the Mrs anyway because she wanted it in orange and black X-Ray, so I'll just have to delay the new plastics in favour of actually getting it working. In the meantime it's still at the place I bought it from with no given estimate for when it will be returned Fingers crossed for me please all!

I can get a new crankcase on eBay for £200 But I imagine stripping the parts out of the current case and putting them in a new case would cost more than just replacing the engine with a used one, and selling the current one as damaged. What does everyone reckon? All of this engine work is beyond my ability. I can do basic maintenance such as oil/filters/plugs, replace chain, replace clutch etc. I've removed an engine from a bike before. I've never put one back in again, and the only engine i've ever cracked open was a top end rebuild on an RS125, and that didn't go particularly well.

The plain shoulder goes through the frame, the threaded bit goes into the shattered engine block mounting point. Does that make sense?

Hi all, thanks for all the replies, sorry about the delay in response I've been on holiday. I'm in the Shropshire area, but happy to travel to find someone to fix it. The bike is HPI clear, no obvious signs of ever being dropped. I'm almost certain there were no cracks in the mount beforehand. At this point any repair is better than no repair. But it appears most here are right, anyone I speak to not only wants the engine out of the frame, but then stripped down. At which point, may as well just stick the internals in a new casing no? I've had a couple of people provide estimates of around the £900-£1100 mark, which is just way out of my budget right now unfortunately. If I had that kind of budget I would have bought a more expensive bike in the first place The bike is currently at the dealer I bought it from where they are repairing the leaky fork seal and the not starting issue. I'd really like to have it booked in somewhere to get this repair sorted so I can drop it off with them as soon as it comes back from the garage. That way I can get it on the road asap. An off the road bike is kind of a shitty christmas present for the Mrs

Thanks for the feedback all. I neglected to mention the front right fork seal is also leaking. The bike was sold remotely/unseen so that is to my advantage. So I've spoken with them honestly, and included the statement "The Mrs has fallen in love with the bike regardless of the issues, and it was her Christmas present, so we really do not want to cancel the order!" to let them know I'm aware i'm within my 14 day cancellation period (which i'm sure they'd dispute should I attempt this). They've gotten back to me and said they will fix the leaky seal and the sensor under warranty, but believe the mounting bolt was overly corroded and not due to being cross-threaded and so will not accept liability. Ultimately I backed down and said I would front the cost for the mounting repair if they would repair the seal and the sensor and front half the costs for transportation. So it'll cost me a total of £100 for transportation to from their garage again and I'll have to get someone to weld the mounting point myself. Just hope I can find someone who can do it without removing the engine from the bike because that's going to cost a ton in labour. Anyone know of anyone or can recommend anyone who could maybe fix the mounting? Preferably in the west midlands but the bike should be rideable so anywhere really. Thanks

Hi, I'm a first-time poster, I signed up for some advice/perspective so please forgive my diving right in on my first post. I'm in the uk and recently bought a CBR600RR from a dealer some miles away from me. It had no fairing protection, having done the job several times before, I bought some sliders in advance of delivery. Upon delivery I took the bike out for a ride to make sure everything was as it should be, all was excellent. The bike is for the Mrs, so I took her to a nearby car park so she could get comfortable with it, having never ridden a supersport bike before. We were out for less than an hour. On the way home, just down the road from the house, the bike cut out. Refused to start just turned over. We walked it back home. I checked it over, it's a code 18 problem with the cam pulse sensor... annoying but no problem we'll get the garage to pick it up, fix it and bring it back. At the end of the day sometimes these things just happen. I emailed the garage of course they are closed for the Christmas period so didn't expect a response any time soon. It was here I made my mistake. I figured while the bike was off the road over the Christmas period. I could do some work on it, as it's too tall for the Mrs it needed lowering and it needed sliders. I took off the fairings, cut the holes and fit the left slider fine. When it came to undoing the right engine mount bolt it was very stiff even after 'cracking the seal'. After around 1.5 full turns there was a large 'crack', the engine mount had sheared into several pieces. Upon inspection, the engine mount bolt was very obviously put in cross-threaded by someone previous: https://imgur.com/a/5VMoPRw I now have a bike with a 30-day warranty, that doesn't start, and has a missing engine mount. I've no doubt the garage will fix the 'not starting' issue under warranty, but I have a feeling they are going to say "You sheared the engine mount, your problem". I realise now when the bike broke down I shouldn't have done any work on it, however, this would have happened at some point regardless. Anyone any ideas where I stand legally on this? Many thanks