Pete Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 Well what do you know, it is a foam filter!Yes you'll need to oil it up. However you could wait for it to arrive and see if it's already got oil on it. The links I put up before will be fine. Any air filter oil to be honest will do the trick, though saying that I've only used paper in mine so haven't any experience with particular brands. Best thing to do is type "buy air filter oil" into google and get the cheapest! You can't really go wrong with it. The reason engine oil works as well is because all the oil is doing is catching bits of fluff and dust (and mice and bees!!) that blow in from outside. There's nothing too special about it, as long as it sticks to the foam it'll work. Oh and also, if you put too much on all that will happen is the engine will run rich with fuel for half an hour or so while the oil gets spread around the filter a bit better (because the extra oil will be blocking air coming in initially).p.s. yes the exhaust blowing smoke can be because of burning excess oil Quote
Guest Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 Well what do you know, it is a foam filter!Yes you'll need to oil it up. However you could wait for it to arrive and see if it's already got oil on it. The links I put up before will be fine. Any air filter oil to be honest will do the trick, though saying that I've only used paper in mine so haven't any experience with particular brands. Best thing to do is type "buy air filter oil" into google and get the cheapest! You can't really go wrong with it. The reason engine oil works as well is because all the oil is doing is catching bits of fluff and dust (and mice and bees!!) that blow in from outside. There's nothing too special about it, as long as it sticks to the foam it'll work. Oh and also, if you put too much on all that will happen is the engine will run rich with fuel for half an hour or so while the oil gets spread around the filter a bit better (because the extra oil will be blocking air coming in initially).p.s. yes the exhaust blowing smoke can be because of burning excess oil Cheers mate thanks for your help. I will wait for it to arrive and see. If it doesn't then I can order some or go to my local garage and see if they have any.Thanks for all your help I will update when I get the stuff I need. Quote
Guest Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 If there is too much oil in there it's tempting to just take the filler cap off, run it for a bit and let excess oil sputter out a bit to lower the level. But don't do that. Partly because you'll get oil everywhere, but mainly because the oil needs to be under pressure to get around the engine properly and taking the cap off will do bad things...Not saying you were going to do that, but it's what a lot of people think of and run into bother. Best thing to do if it's really over filled is to bite the bullet and drain the oil and put a new load in.Like I said before, I bet you won't overfill it again!Suzuki Pete, you like doing things the hard way, get a syringe and washer pipe, i have one for reverse bleeding brakes, then insert pipe and syphon excess oil out, piece of cake, definately something to have in a tool box for a bike.. Quote
Pete Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 Just had a thought while I was tucking into my carvery ( ). Depending on how dirty your existing air filter is (and as long as it's the foam type) you could try cleaning it and save a bit of money instead of buying a new one. I found a video on YouTube and matey boy in it seems to know what he's talking about"> Quote
Pete Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 If there is too much oil in there it's tempting to just take the filler cap off, run it for a bit and let excess oil sputter out a bit to lower the level. But don't do that. Partly because you'll get oil everywhere, but mainly because the oil needs to be under pressure to get around the engine properly and taking the cap off will do bad things...Not saying you were going to do that, but it's what a lot of people think of and run into bother. Best thing to do if it's really over filled is to bite the bullet and drain the oil and put a new load in.Like I said before, I bet you won't overfill it again!Suzuki Pete, you like doing things the hard way, get a syringe and washer pipe, i have one for reverse bleeding brakes, then insert pipe and syphon excess oil out, piece of cake, definately something to have in a tool box for a bike.. Simon, you're right as usual ! Although if it's been in there a while you might as well change it anyway. If not, do it's the WalneyFrankie way. Quote
Guest Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 if its a paper airfilter then take it out and bang it on the dirty side any dust should fall out, or give a blast with a hoover, ultimately replace with new. Quote
Guest Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 if its a paper airfilter then take it out and bang it on the dirty side any dust should fall out, or give a blast with a hoover, ultimately replace with new. Sorry it has a white sponge one that is now yellow especially on one side - but I ordered a new one after SuzukiPete's advice. Quote
Pete Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 Well yes it probably is best to get a new one in there, that's my opinion anyway . Foam filters like I mentioned before can be cleaned and reused (as long as they're not ripped or totally b*ggered!), but for the price of a new one you might as well get new. Quote
Guest Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 Well yes it probably is best to get a new one in there, that's my opinion anyway . Foam filters like I mentioned before can be cleaned and reused (as long as they're not ripped or totally b*ggered!), but for the price of a new one you might as well get new. Yeah cheers - I got some shell air filter oil as well, it was only 3 quid so I decided to order it, no doubt someone I know may need it someone, or I will need it again. Quote
dredge3 Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 2 strokes are bad at starting full stop.Forget air filter. Leave it out. Get a new plug first. 2 strokes eat plugs. Right....with plug out, turn over bike for a few seconds on full throttle. Then hit carb at the bottom of float chamber with screw driver end (not tip) just in case float is sticking. Warm plug as before. Put in plug plus ht lead this time Make sure kill switch is on and ignition Dont start with starter, bump it off as fast as you can in second gear. Start with no throttle then full then none etc, doing this quickly. Does it start. If yes, did it start on small throttle or full? If it doesnt start. Take plug out, connect back to ht lead. Place the end of the plug on top of engine. Now turn everything on and turn it over. Is the spark strong and what colour is it. I don't know whats your bike is like, but its either intake or coil end. After this you need carb stripping and checking over by a good mate who will show you how its done. If you lived close I would do if for you Quote
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