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Do you mean stalling when turning, or just when waiting to make a turn? When I first started I fell off on corners because of the bike stalling. The cause was poor clutch control, I guess because I was persuaded to do the CBT on an auto and was teaching myself gears. Not enough throttle whilst slipping the clutch, and probably not coming off the back brake, meant the engine did not have enough power to move the bike so the engine cut out. An instructor offered some help after one of his classes which sorted that out.
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Better luck next time, via. How is that not your signature?
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The pins connecting the box and plate have never been a problem for me, though. And the internal ones is just because of the clips the connectors sit in, not the springs themselves. For a third the price, before import fees, and with all the wiring hidden away I have no regrets with the Givi kit.
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Lone Wolf, No Clubs Patch?
someone replied to Youngbiker819's topic in Clothing, Luggage, Accessories and Security
They still want to show what they are part of, but instead of that being a tightly bonded club that acts as one they want to show they exist amongst a group of individuals who stand alone within the culture. If you are into that kind of thing it all makes sense. I understand it even though it is definitely not for me. It is no different to not liking popular bands and standing out by wearing t-shirts for the obscure ones you do. But the whole caring about the approval of others contradicts what it is supposed to me so is just weird. -
I have had no muckiness problems. The only issues I have had are that the connectors on the inside of the case (to complete the circuit between lights in the lid and power from the base) did not always touch. So I stuffed some blu-tack in the clips before sliding in the connector. No problem then, and I always check the box light too as part of my pre-ride checks. And now when I try to take the cover off the plug it keeps pulling it out of the plate instead. I think that may be a result of switching the setup between bikes and plates, though. Maybe I will need to glue it in. The cover holds on very tightly though.
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Lone Wolf, No Clubs Patch?
someone replied to Youngbiker819's topic in Clothing, Luggage, Accessories and Security
.......until you get the crap beaten out of you....... Even if this were not the real world, but one in which the club owned the parish council and could get them to stop the local constabulary investigating assaults, so what? If this is your culture you stand up to them and win them over. Or even fight them to gain their respect. At least if that is who you really are. Plenty of people have to worry about getting assaulted every time they go outside because of their sexuality, colour, gender, or various other aspects of their identity. Kids wearing £15 pieces of mass-produced nature embroidery are pretty safe. -
Lone Wolf, No Clubs Patch?
someone replied to Youngbiker819's topic in Clothing, Luggage, Accessories and Security
Reading this thread your culture seems to be of wanting to stand out in society by hiding away. Being an individual, so long as a group chooses you can have that identity. To stand up for yourself, but only if no one minds. You are worried you are a threat to a club you are scared of. And you "won't ride with it on"? Is this your culture or are you just a poser? If it really is your identity then be yourself. If anyone else has a issue with that it is their problem, not yours. What sort of lone wolf goes around worrying what the cool table thinks of them? This is 21st century Britain, not the wild west. You are not going to be dragged into a barn and shot, people will just look at you funny. But if standing up to them is too difficult then maybe it you made a mistake and it is not your culture? No shame in that, not many people like being the centre of attention or trouble. And it does not mean you cannot still like all the things you like without the cultural trappings. A real lone wolf would be happier being themselves than living up to a stereotype of how they should be anyway. We all have our own difficult identity stuff to deal with and attitudes of others to overcome. At least I hope it is not just me. But if you have to ask for advice and permission to be yourself then that is not who you are. Be someone else. Be yourself. -
If they are convenient for you, Sutton Motorcycle Training are excellent. I went with them for my DAS and would use them again, except they were too good and I passed. Great people, the on-road training was in the same area as used by the examiners for Mod 2, and the Mod 1 training at the actual test centre too. They are located in the town centre, just north of the pedestrianized High Street.
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…as a way of getting consumers to buy multiple separate product, each justifying a higher price by their specialist nature. And sometimes the difference between something which does the job and something which does a better job has no practical benefit because you will never be able to realize or appreciate the difference in practice. The problem with using WD40 as a contact cleaner is that in particularly dusty environments it causes the dust to stick which causes problems, which I assume is what the specialist product prevents. But in ordinary environments it does the job without issue, so the specialist produce is better but is it worth it for most people? When things already do a job well, the newer better versions usually only offer improvements in specific situations. WD40 may be 64 years old, but electricity has not changed within that time. Cleaner than clean enough will not make any difference, newer products will not stop the old ones from doing the same job that have done with problem for decades. There are many reasons for changing to something else, like it being more environmentally friendly, but improvements you will not need or able able to gain an advantage from is not one of them. That is just marketing. (Well someone needed to offer some debate, which was unfortunate for me.)
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Feeling a bit gutted- some advice please
someone replied to Flangie74's topic in CBT, Test and Advanced Training Information
If you count up the time like that, as in time spent actually moving, then I would say it is about normal for the sections you completed. But… It sounds like you are saying that you did not have a separate bike each to ride, and were sharing and waiting for a turn? If so that is definitely not normal for that reason alone I would go somewhere else. Even when just watching others, if you are sat on a bike you are still getting a feel for its weight and to balance. Standing around you are gaining very little. I would also question the school putting a complete novice with a group of experienced riders, who were only going through the motions, like that. Such a situation can be beneficial where it means the instructor can just monitor the rest of the group and give you more attention, but that does not sound the case here as the bikes had to be rationed out. Another reason against the school. Do not forget the CBT has five sections, a classroom one on safety, the off-road riding skills, another classroom session about road safety, then the on-road riding itself. There is a lot to fit in, and the purpose of the CBT is only to ensure you have the basic skills to be safe on the road, it is not a driving lesson, so it is very brief and basic. You are expected to learn by gradually building up your experience or taking professional training. In your description it sounds like your group skipped the first safety session, but some schools do switch the order. Had you continued then you would still have had all the classroom stuff to do and usually a gap for lunch before the two hours on the road, so you can see how it still fills out the day. Also unless it has changed you have to ride around the cones you mention at the end, rather than just walk around them. It was that way when I did it, as that is where you practice shoulder checks before making a simulated right turn etc. But even so, most decent schools will instead let you spend more time practising in the training area if you are not ready to go on the road rather than just sending you home. So another thing against that particular school. You definitely should have got more bike time for your money. One thing in the school's defence though, the instructor was actually correct to check the bike before coming back to you. A hot petrol filled bike with a fast spinning chain is dangerous, so whenever you encounter an accident the first thing to do is secure the scene and make sure the bike is not posing a hazard before retuning to the rider. So to answer your first question, it sounds like badly run training. Nothing you said gave any reason to think you did anything wrong or would not be able to complete the course in a normal environment. Just find somewhere where they have a bike per person, and be more gentle on the emergency stop. The benefit of learning off-road is you can start out a little too cautious but then become a little quicker each time rather than trying to get it perfect first time. -
HELMET ADVICE
someone replied to Lanceautoman's topic in Clothing, Luggage, Accessories and Security
The pinlock seems to work in normal conditions, it does not fog up, but for me the the overall effect can be limited as the glasses do instead. Although riding in fog you have to keep it closed at all times, as just opening it briefly whilst stopped lets enough moist air in that it needs drying off. I think that is part of the helmet's poor ventilation though, as it is not removed so just warms up and has nowhere else to go. -
What age do you replace a crash helmet?
someone replied to The Hitcher's topic in Clothing, Luggage, Accessories and Security
I thought type B was the BSI equivalent of ECE R22.05, whilst type A met the higher standard required for track use? If you can only use type B helmets for two years that would apply to most road ones being sold. -
HELMET ADVICE
someone replied to Lanceautoman's topic in Clothing, Luggage, Accessories and Security
I also have a Duke, and going by the photos on the Caberg site it is actually probably the Duke II, it was bought just over a year ago. It is my second one after my head hit the ground in my original one, and though it seemed okay I decided it was not worth the risk of still using it. That original one had a plugged gap in the left side where you could fit the Caberg Just Speak Easy bluetooth kit, this hole is absent from the newer model which though is apparently compatible with the Just Speak S kit. I was easily able to attach a Cardo Scala Rider on both, though. But I assume this is what Gerontius is referring too, and if so I have not noticed any noise improvement. But otherwise than a few slight changes there is no obvious difference between them. The Duke was actually my third helmet, the first was a free one I got with my CBT and shortly after that I bought a Lidl flip one as a cheap spare. When the visor cracked in the free one I switched to the Lidl and and always intended on buying something better, but laziness and little big road riding meant that never happened until I dragged my head along the road a bit. I only mention the Lidl one because in two ways the it was, for me, much better than the Duke. The visor was bigger at the edges giving better peripheral vision. When doing a shoulder check you have to turn much further with the Duke. But the key one to me is the ventilation, it was just something I never thought of with the Lidl, but the Duke feels a lot hotter with just a single flap on the top. There is also a vent on the exterior of the chin, but with no control and it is solid on the inside so no idea where the air actually goes. I almost always have to leave the visor open a crack unless the weather is too wet or too cold. And related to that the Lidl had a nose guard which the Duke does not, and I guess it made a big difference because I had fewer problems with the inside steaming up in cold weather or fog despite the lack of a pinlock. Although that could be the strange chin vent which cannot be closed? But the Duke is definitely quieter and lighter, which matters a lot if you are riding it on anything more than short trips. I would not have been able to use the Lidl for long as I started riding more. Most helmets you have to wear ear plugs with anyway, so though I do not have experience with anything quieter I have no problems with it. And I can listen to music through bluetooth speaks with ear plugs. I am not too keen on the control for the sun visor as I tend to keep having to fumble to get the end of the slider. It also hits my nose when all the way down, but stopping it one click before that is fine, once you have found the slider. (The Lidl had a sun visor too, incidentally, but whilst the control on that was easier to find it was more fiddly to use and got in the way of a bluetooth kit, so the Duke comes out better.) In most weather when riding with the visor open anyway makes the Duke easily the better option, though in fog the Lidl one just seems better at stopping the inside clouding up. As Joeman says, all helmets have to meet safety standards, so fit is the most important aspect of that, and afterwards you are mainly paying for features. Although the Duke having a five-star SHARP rating did influence my choice. It also helped that it was a recognized brand, and was pinlock ready and included one. Overall I think next time I am buying I would look for something similar but with better ventilation, though the price may see me return to the Duke again. It is just very good value for an otherwise reliable helmet with good features and a good safety rating. And I have never had any problem with the flip or visor showing signs of breaking or wearing out, nor with leaking. Never used the option to ride with the flip up, though whenever I have accidentally flipped the lock it has held so it seems sturdy too. Based on your price range and list of issues and features, I would recommend it as a good choice. And I do suffer from heat very easily, so maybe the ventilation will not be a problem for you. -
Questions about A2 and A
someone replied to Yeldur's topic in CBT, Test and Advanced Training Information
Below is the law which allows you to ride a larger bike on the road when accompanied by an instructor, it makes no mention of bike classes. And the tests themselves are taken individually and nothing to do with an instructor. If they cannot book you to do you tests together that is down to the scheduling at the DVSA centre and not the law. -
It is just a normal disc lock, only that is bolted onto the calliper and the pin is removable rather than retractable. The latter presumably to avoid any risk of it slipping whilst riding. So the main part still goes around the disc to catch the pin on the other side, see the image from the front page of their site:
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Something like that really should be fitted by manufacturers as standard. Relatively cheap and easy for them, whilst far more convenient for riders than carrying around a separate disc lock which mean many never even bother. No need for reminder cable, they could just use a switch as they do with the stand and clutch so the ignition will not start if the pin is in place.
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My Theory Test today
someone replied to Alien's topic in CBT, Test and Advanced Training Information
What a weird way to celebrate the Christmas period. Congratulations. I did not do so well on the HPT part because I was too worried about clicking too often. So I went too early to count then again later when it counted for less. But no one looks at what you actual score was, only that you passed it so just forget about it and start worrying about Mod1! -
Jackets...are they really worth it?
someone replied to Kevin's topic in Clothing, Luggage, Accessories and Security
What will your girlfriend think when she visits you in hospital seeing you missing a layer of skin? Motorcycle gear is not just about armour to absorb impact but also abrasion resistance, so when you go sliding down the road it holds together and prevents your body from being shredded. But there are plenty of brands making gear to look like regular clothing as well as stormtroopers. You can look on any of the big online retailer web sites to see a much wider range to get an idea of what you want to try. Then either ask a shop if they stock it or just order, most offer good return policies. Usually necessary because every bloody manufacturer seems to see sizes differently. Or you could get a top box and swap safety gear with something casual when you get on or off the bike. Or a car, they offer excellent abrasion resistance no matter what you wear. -
How to get from London to Brighton avoiding motorways: head south and stop before entering the sea. If you want fun you are better off creating your own route or using an app which creates dedicated motorcycle routes, as those will favour local roads over motorways. If you just say to avoid motorways it will still go for the fastest route so, depending precisely where you are coming from, will usually direct you to Crawley to join the A23 south to Brighton. Which is a motorway in all but name and legal restrictions. Fast and useful, but not a route if you want a fun ride. But if you just want to get there you can easily avoid the M23 by just not turning off the A23 onto it. Although I find the A217 a better way to Crawley, whilst Google seems to prefer to come off the A23 at Purley for the A22, B2028, A264, then through Crawley back onto the A23. For the most fun though you want to enter Brighton either via Saddlescombe Road and Devil's Dyke Road or via Ditchling Road. A slight detour but both can be accessed from the A273 Hassocks exit on the A23, which is the penultimate one before it turns into a local road in Brighton.
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I will trust you then, [mention]raesewell[/mention], although if I die I will come back and haunt you! Even after cutting the tape back a bit there was still only a short section of the cables exposed so it was a bit tricky, but the taps were so easy to do that I was sure I must have done something wrong. They are secure and everything works, though. As they face downward once scrunched back into place I will leave off worrying about waterproofing as hopefully it will only be a short term measure anyway. Just a shame that Givi's own rack does not have anywhere to run the cable from their plate to the bike without having to resort to randomly wrapping some cable ties around it. And thanks for the link, [mention]Chrissb6[/mention]. Nothing listed on their site but they seem a good place to ask.
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I would not say three categories with age ranges is "so many". Well, there are four if you want to count mopeds, even though there is no car equivalent for 16 year olds. Though there must be almost no one taking the AM test rather than just riding on a CBT for a year before doing the A1 test. It is only useful if you need to take a pillion as no one should want to use a motorway when they are restricted to 28mph. What young people are driving arctics for fun when an A2 licence easily gets you on bikes doing over 100mph? The age limit for them was only lowered to encourage recruitment, and they are essentially just a piece of work equipment rather than a status symbol to race around in at weekends.
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Quick service too as I ordered on Sunday and they arrived today. Will have a go with them tomorrow morning. I was wondering though if you did anything about waterproofing them? The bunch of connectors are under a plastic cover anyway, but thinking it cannot hurt to put a bit of electrical tape at least around the tops.
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There are two options. One is to have a basic theory test as part of the CBT. So there will be no change to the required tests to be take, just that the CBT will effectively be made tougher. This option though would increase the length of a CBT and require additional support and training for trainers that it will likely increase the cost of a CBT. The intention is therefore simply to require a completed theory test before you can take a CBT. So there will be no extra costs, it would only change the order in which you must complete the various stages of getting a licence. It is felt this would be simpler, improve standards of learners on the road, allow more of the CBT time to be spent on practical skills, and encourage more riders to take the full test rather who currently keep renewing CBTs. So following an assessment of the impact of requiring a completed theory test there will be a further consultation. Whilst the DVSA are legally required to make a surplus, the idea that they do anything to make a profit is absurd. Two years ago they reduced the theory test cost due to efficiency savings rather than increase profits. And the consideration of replacing testing with training for the progressive access route will lose them test income whilst requiring expense to support the system
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Interesting, that one does not have the two locks under the pins but otherwise looks and sounds right. I wonder if those locks are even necessary, or just part of how my particular connector was assembled and not necessary. But I cannot find anywhere to buy them in the U.K. on eBay or Google, everything is either China with trade-sized minimum orders or U.S. So I think for now I will order some of those Posi-taps, they seem useful to have anyway, so I can hopefully those will arrive this week to get it rigged up as soon as possible. But will look to find and order some HX 040s too. Thanks all.