Well that's definitely an option, but I don't want to cause a rift! I have tweaked the Glossop loop to start/finish at the pub; 76 miles/2hrs 20mins in total, including Winnat's Pass, Snake Pass and a ride-by of Chatsworth House: https://www.motogoloco.com/map?route=39755 It would also be easy to extend it from Rowsley, going down the B5056 to Fenny Bentley and back via Warslow and Longnor, making it 98 miles/3hours. So, about this drinking. Do you mostly bring your own and sit in the field, or do we prop up the pub's bar for the evening? The extended ride could also easily go to Carsington Water, for anyone needing the tag. Assume the Brierlow Bar Bookstore will be done when leaving or arriving, since it's literally 5 minutes up the road from the campsite!