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Currently 45p a mile for cars and only 24p per mile for Motorcycles.  Aside for it having not been updated since 2013,  who thinks that bikes get twice the mileage and half the servicing cost of cars.  Who's in charge of that?

I bought a used bike from Manchester dealer a couple of years ago.  By the time I got it to Hertfordshire the rear plate was gone. Must have forgotten to put the nuts on the screws.

"Press" is to press the bar - i.e. initiate counter steering. So; Slow (to the limit point) Look (into the turn) Press (to turn) Roll (on the throttle).

IPSGA is not a cornering technique per-sé.  You could use it at an junction. 

So the Police use it and IAM and RoSPA copy the Police.  So back to the question. Even without arguing the pros and cons of how you get a motorcycle around a bend: Why only the Police?

Sorry if the 2 previous poster is underderstood me. I know what is written in the manual, but that not what gets taught and examined. Max legal speed possible at all times. I'm confident to hit bends at high speed, but am I demonstrating safety?  A senior IAM examiner told me this week that I should be riding at 7-9000 RPM., using engine braking for adjustments of 10MPH and brakes for greater amounts.

Sure, I push the boundaries all the time, but I don't kid myself that it's advanced.

Look for a you tube video on slow, look, press, and roll and you will be hard pressed to find one. Trail braking on the othe hand, is everywhere. CSS, Ryan F9. Motojitsu, MC rider and more..? Apparently Yamaha USA has some kind of deal where they teach new riders and they teach it. Its everywhere, but not the MSF or the UK Police. What's with that?

I've just done the Enhanced rider Scheme test. It's an actual safety based course. The examiner is also an IAM/ROSPA tester. While he said that I was "safe", he couldn't resist telling me that I was slowing down too much on some bends and speed limits.

I would really like to see the ERS taught on group days rather than Bikesafe. Actual road time with a DVSA backed test that can get you an insurance discount!

Did it.  Passed.  Loads of feed back too.  Not all of it enjoyable but in the context of "advanced", all good.  I think there aught to be more courses that go beyond DVSA but not "delivering a kidney" elitist like IAM.  Preferably a day course like bikesafe but with on the bike training rather than just an observed ride.  A couple of years ago I did a California Superbike school "corning confidence" day and got around their car park course quite quick, but it caries no weight on the road.

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Surely nobody thinks that the point of IAM training is to make you the fastest kid from A to B ? They insist you stick to all speed limits and rules of the road ! Any numpty can get there quicker by ignoring all that and putting their life at risk, and track riding is a completely different discipline to riding legally (and safely) on the road.

Actually, that is EXACTLY what they require.  You are encouraged travel at (but never above) the speed limit because (its advanced).  Slowing down too much at bends is a weakness as is 65 on a motorway and will get you marked down on their test.  Also runing in an economical gear is discouraged since you wont be able to accelerate fast of engine brake.

Honestly, I don't know what IAM/ROSPA is for.  They're not safety courses.  They are high speed risk reduction courses.

Thanks everyone. I acknowledge the benefits of additional training, but I was asking specificly about the Enhanced scheme. £70, a certificate approved by the DVSA and you get to tick the additional qualifications box at insurance time.  Only on person here did it?

Opinions ?

any more?

This is really interesting. So far: only 2 riders have been hit by cars - apart from the *FIVE* hit while stationary. There are lessons to be learned!  I wonder if you are either high mileage riders or just occasional. What I could have done is divide the total miles ridden by the number of crashed but that would have got complicated and who tracks that? 

More result required.

4 years and 45000 miles btw.

1 hour ago, manxie49 said:

I suppose mine would count, once in the last ten years but I was actually static.  Rear ended at a pedestrian crossing. 

Static don't count.  There is literally nothing you can do...... other than run the pedestrians down.  Your choice!

Edit:- since there are at least 3 of us, I added the option.

Not counting static or parking drops or track or off road and to make it a more level playing field, only the last 10 years.  However lets include accidents that were someone else's fault and freak conditions.

Edit:-  I added the option "run into while stopped."  It seems to be a thing!

3 hours ago, Yorky said:

So what you're saying is that you try to ride within the law when it suits you??

No. Not at all, but in the same way that you have the right to remain silent - even if you are innocent, we only need to comply with the letter of the law, not the spirit.  I'm just saying that I have no requirement to do the Police's job for them or make it easy.  Also, we need to know what modifications are permissible so that a "down on quota" plod  doesn't hit us with a technicality that we didn't know existed.  There is no such crime as "failing to display a reasonable number plate. So, what is the letter?

Readable from behind - but not above?

what height? How far from other text?

Sure it needs to be illuminated, but how brightly? What colour? What angle? 

I've seem plates at a reverse angle so there is no way that a gatso could read them.  I've seen them on their side too!

What else?

I try to ride within to law, but In the same way that having a good lawyer on call is not the same a being guilty, I see no reason to make identification easy. I know that there are rules for number plate sizes and borders.  That's covered.  Are there rules for position, angle, lighting etc?  If so, where?

On 01/07/2022 at 02:50, S-Westerly said:

A lot of threads here go off on tangents.  Just be grateful no one mentioned biscuits.

My tuppence worth. My sports helmet is lighter, noisier and more uncomfortable.  My touring helmet is a lot more pleasant to wear.

You can't eat biscuits in a full face helmet.  

Back in my Apprenticeship, we were trained in Acetylene and stick welding.  In the nineties I had a MIG set but the gas rental was annoying for the amount that I used it. I considered getting a TIG set but the price is high and you still have the gas issue.  Recently I discoverer FCAW.  Low power, no gas, you need a rotary wire brush, but other than that its a one-box solution.  I could try to figure it out by trial and error  but I would prefer training. I can find no end of MIG/TIG courses but no FCAW. 

Does anyone know of a FCAW training course.?

Odd that the answers went on a tangent.  Obviously all helmets are shaped differently some are noisier than others, but but since helmets are sometimes marketed as "touring" and "sports" I was looking for the generic difference between two markering ideas.

Anyway I think I have the answer.  Thanks.

Thanks but that wasn't the question.

Other than certifications, is there any shape difference between a specific sportsbike helmet and any other full face helmet? I understand that many touring helmets might have additional features like internal sun visor. but as far as actual shape is concerned?  My Shoei GT air is 40,000 miles old so I suppose its close to start looking for the next lid.  It has always felt like If I lean forward into a more sport position I'm looking through the top of the visor.  If I get any lower, I'm blind.

It seems like every time I click on a bike video I get a wall of rock music.  Insipid, no-royaly music at that.  That or similarly insipid hip hop. why does anyone think it makes their video more entertaining?

In the end she got through Mod2 and the bike has 500 miles on it. It's booked for the first service the day before we leave. 

Assuming my wife passes her Mod2 in a few days we have a Honda Rebel with 200 miles that she wants to ride on holiday.  The first oil change is due at 600. There won't be an opportunity to put more than 100 more on it and the holiday will probably be 500 miles. So the first change will be due in the middle of the holiday. 

Do it before or after?

On 17/05/2022 at 10:43, fullscreenaging said:

What made you think that driving instructors examine their own pupils? 
 

If you think about it surely that is open to abuse. 
 

It's how the CBT works. I believe that in some countries the upgrade from A2 to A is handled this way, so its not completely stupid.