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The Montreal 3 keeps me dry in most situations, and i would expect the 4 to be an improvement. TBH i wouldnt have ridden in that weather in the UK, i just didnt have a choice on the trip. If you have the over jacket and trousers as well i think you will be fine

i have the Montreal 3 jacket and salopettes, i have had them for about 5 years now. In the UK I ride in this in the wet and have never had an issue with it penetrating. However, I have also just returned from 10 days riding to the Italian Alps in some very extreme wet weather. There was a particular day on my trip where i had to ride 320miles in torrential rain. I don't think there would have been much reasonably priced gear that could have withstood that. Some colleagues had very expensive Rukka gear and stayed dry. I was soaked through, if you combined it with a waterproof over jacket and trousers then i expect it would have been good enough. One other thing i would add, is the salopettes are very warm, i removed the lining straight away and have never used it since. There are a couple of vents but they don't so a lot. I assume you are looking at the Montreal 4 so i expect there have been improvements in that one.

Just got back from the Alps at the weekend and it included going through Austria (albeit only for one day). Layers are key, including a waterproof layer. that way you are prepared for anything. Austrian police have a reputation and a "no nonsense "attitude. We didn't encounter any on our trip but we were warned by some locals to not piss them off if we get stopped and that they are even locally considered to be "ar*eholes" (their words not ours). don't forget your vignette if you are intending to use the motorways i had a GoPro attached to my helmet while i was there but i dont recall using it in Austria though.

thanks Simon, the weather was a pain but at least it cleared up. Cant wait to do another

For info, i am the one second left on the last picture.

So i returned from the trip on Sunday evening. The trip was amazing with many good but some not so good events. Overall the riding was fantastic, some of the roads and passes were something else. we couldn't do Stelvio as it does not open until the end of May, however i don't feel i missed out as the alternatives were excellent. Friday we met up at a hotel in Folkstone, didn't start well for one of the party as he broke down on the way. Turns out he had put diesel in his GS so the AA sorted that out pretty quickly for him and he was on his way, he didnt live that down for the entire trip. On day 1 the trip to Metz was quite long and the weather was terrible but we stopped off at an amazing little boulangerie, the staff were fantastic and the baguettes were first class. Turns out they always stop here on trips to Europe. The weather continued to be terrible all day but we got to Metz without any incidents. Day 2 we travelled from Metz to Freiburg, another fairly long day and another day where it was raining all day. we attempted the Grand Ballon but the rain was so bad (heavy rain and very low cloud cover meant we were losing visibility very quickly and without warning, the conditions were dangerous so we abandoned the Ballon. Day 3 we travelled to Italy, our longest trip at over 300miles and without a doubt the worst day for rain. This was the day my gear leaked and i was soaked, i am going to need some waterproof overs (will start a new thread for recommendations). Also during this trip one of the BMW XRs broke down and we were delayed for 2hrs (on an already long day), this meant we had to change our route slightly but this was not a problem as the conditions were so bad people were happy to just get to the destination. Water got into the electrics and the throttle sensor failed, this couldn't be fixed by the road side so BMW were called. The after care from BMW was excellent, the bike and rider were picked up and taken to a local BMW garage and put up in a hotel for the night. Although they couldn't replace the part they did fix it the next morning and seal it so he could continue his trip, he only missed one day with us as a result. Day 4, 5 and 6 took us to through Italy. this was where the fun could really begin, and the weather getting better each day. the mountain roads were amazing and we continued to visit some lovely little coffee shops and cafes. The first Triumph breakdown occurred in the morning of day 4 where the Speed Triple RS would not start in the morning, a blown fuse was the culprit (caused again by water ingress). Another GS breakdown at the start of day 5 and another 2hr delay, luckily it was only a problem with the battery so a new battery was purchased and we were on our way, the final breakdown of the trip was resolved. Day 7 meant a return to Germany and another long day, by now the weather was glorious. more fantastic roads were ridden and much fun was had. Day 8 was back to Metz and a chance to ride the Grand Ballon in the sunshine, what a road. To summarise, the trip was everything i had hoped and more. The weather did put a dampener on things at the start. When we got to the hotel in Merano on day 3 i was questioning if this was a good idea and i was not equipped properly. But Italy rectified this and was amazing, although we stopped in France Germany and Italy we also rode through Austria and Switzerland. The views in this part of the world are stunning and although you would see them 50 times a day they never got boring. Every time you emerged from a mountain tunnel into the most beautiful mountains and valleys, the first words were always "wow" and never got boring. So what did i learn about my bike. My 10 year old Street Triple was faultless the entire journey, 2 year old GS's with their complicated electronics were breaking down but the Triumph just went on and on. It was by far the oldest and lowest power on the trip but for the most part kept up, yes the GS's would speed away on the straights but i was never really left behind. The riding position maybe not the best for a long journey and the lack of fairing or screen was a big problem on the rainy days. I could have done with more power but it was a great experience and one i will definitely do again. I will add some photos.

going Saturday morning so if i dont have it now i will go without.

These are the approx distances, some long days there.

Stelvio is not looking good though, is currently closed.

OK so I am going to the Italian Alps. Starting out on the 3rd May and returning on the 11th. As I said in the title, I have never done a tour before but a friend of mine who is very experienced touring in Europe has organised the entire trip. There are 10 of us going with the majority of them very experienced tourers. I am very excited to finally get out into Europe and do some serious riding. My bike is a Triumph Street Triple, not the ideal touring bike but I didn't have time to get anything else before (due to demo bikes not being available and other family matters. But i love my Triple and cannot wait to get going. below is the basic route (but there are alternatives depending on circumstances i.e Stelvio being still closed etc. Day 1 - Folkestone to Metz Day 2 - Metz to Freiburg Day 3 - Freiburg to Merano Day 4 - Merano to Cortina Day 5 - Cortina to Maniago Day 6 - Maniago to Sopramonte Day 7 - Sopramonte to Freiburg (via Stelvio) Day 8 - Freiburg to Metz

As long as she is OK that's all that matters, and her confidence is not too damaged. as bud said, a rattle can on the painted parts should do enough. Otherwise check out ebay and scrap yards for replacement plastics. GOign forward you could look for some crash protection so if anything happens again, e.g. dropping it while walking it out the garage. The damage would be minimal. On a side note, i had a white one of those and it was a great bike and very cheap. Used it for 6months all through the winter before passing my full test.

SO i go to the Italian Alps in 4 weeks today and am very keen to get some decent footage for my personal collection. I have a GoPro9 and had it mounted on my old HJC IS-17 i could mount it quite neatly just to the left of the chin vent. However i have now got a HJC F70 Carbon and the shape makes it very difficult to mount securely. I have even had the 3M come away, luckily not while i was riding. I also didn't like the position to the left of the chin vent as it just wasn't as tidy as on the IS-17. So i have gone for a purpose (3D printed) chin mount from a US company called Chin Mounts. I don't feel its cheap £30 with delivery and 10% off, i didn't go for the bundles as i have enough GoPro brackets to get a decent mount. HJC F70 Helmet Camera Chin Mount for GoPro, Insta360, DJI, Akaso, etc — Chin Mounts Has anyone used anything from these? i don't think they look refined but they have a small profile and has decent reviews.

its best to do a sewarch for your local biker down. eg the link below is for bikerdown herts. There is a little more info on there. Biker Down Course Tickets, Multiple Dates | Eventbrite

oh i see