quark

Yes I do.

Yes it is.

Yes you do.

Avoid brakes etc. Don't overdo it, very little is required.

As above,

Also does a great job of cleaning oil deposits, and leaves a good finish on black plastic.

Why don't take it to the dealers and ask them?

They will put it right if it needs sorting.

Its already booked for Monday, Just thought I might try and learn something in the meantime

Ask in here they are very knowledgeable about all things triumph.

http://www.triumphtorque.com/messageboa ... lving.aspx

Thanks saxman, I will check the forum out.

well i am no expert but i wouldnt have thought it would cause any damage unless it was used for long periods that way.. i wouldnt worry too much about it mate as if all seems fine when you ride etc then forget about it...

 

Rode it this morning and still lumpy, so need to look a bit more now

I went past the triumph garage, earlier and tried to feel for the correct position of the pipes. It seemed to me that the above quote from triumphrat.net might not be correct as the bike I checked seemed to have them the other way around.

So if anyone has a speed triple and has 5min to double check for me that would be great or if anyone has a link to a service manual so I could try to look it up, that would also be good .

I have booked it in to get looked at on Monday anyway, so hopefully it can be sorted then.

well i am no expert but i wouldnt have thought it would cause any damage unless it was used for long periods that way.. i wouldnt worry too much about it mate as if all seems fine when you ride etc then forget about it...

Rode it this morning and still lumpy, so need to look a bit more now

they could be breather pipes...

Yep, you where spot on And since my last post I found this helful post on triumphrat.net . . .

http://www.triumphrat.net/speed-triple- ... pipes.html

"Fuel tank - If your fuel tank sucks air when you open it, the air and fuel drain lines have been put on incorrectly. This can cause starting problems and can damage the tank and fuel pump. Remove the tank and make sure the line with the disc valve is on the outside (left side). And make sure the lines are not kinked.

When you put the tank back on, move it as far forward as possible, and make sure the seat has the little pads on it to prevent scratching the tank."

So back on correctly now, and I hope no damage has been done. Not sure how both were knocked off, as when I tried to remove one to re-route it after fitting it was quite difficult to get off again. I wonder if they removed the tank to do the wiring and then forgot to put them back??

they could be breather pipes...

Thanks argentum40.

I was taking another look, and I found the real overflow pipes. So, as they were def not them, and because I also noticed that the ends were slightly deformed (as if they had been fitted to another pipe), I started to look where they could possibly reach. And after taking of a bit of the side fairing I can see that there are two down pipes from the bottom of the fuel tank that I suspect are where these should fit, the problem is I dont know which goes to which at the moment. So I need a diagram or a friendly S3 owner to check for me. I may try to get to the local triumph place and take a look at one of theirs tomorrow

I think they may have been disturbed, when the guys at GW fitted the alarm and heated grips So, its probably been like this all week, hope it hasn't caused any problems now.

Cheers

A couple of quick questions,

First any idea what these pipes are?? I think they are the overflow pipes, but when cleaning it tonight I saw they were just haning loose under the centre area, should htese be secured anywhere?

Second, my 09 6k Speed triple seems to have a small problem, nothing serious I think, but the rpm's are a bit erratic. It seems to jump about 200-300rpm constantly. I don't remember it doing this on the test ride or the ride home, but i have noticed it alot over the last couple of days and it makes slow controll a little lumpy, at higher speed its not noticable, but when I open the trottle a bit when out of gear I can see it is still doing it then. Is this normal? The only thing thats happend to it this week is that I put 60miles on the clock and a tank of fuel in it (could be a duff batch I guess).

Thanks for any help.

OverFlow Pipes??

I just take it to one of them polish hand car wash places every so often.

Just have to make sure you start it asap after they finish n get rid of the water that gets in the engine.

They do a fantastic job though (well most of them do!)

That's a good point. After washing I always run the engine for a bit to dry it off. the ACF-50 is supposed to stop the water getting to places it shouldn't, but the heat from the engine helps get rid of any residual moisture. I did consider though that it is not recommended to use warm/hot water to clear salt deposits as it will speed up corrosion, so before doing this I think you prob should have rinsed things pretty well with cold water.

I have the same bike and my wife says that for every hour I spend riding it I spend 2 cleaning it

To be fair it has been the winter and the rain and such does get it pretty dirty, and some of the comments on the forums have made me a little paranoid about rust and keeping it clean. Still not sure to be honest that its not all overkill, but hey it still looks nice and shiney.

I also noticed that some of the exhaust blots where attracting a bit of rust even though I had been careful about avoiding getting it wet, plus due to the fairings you can't easily clean or get to some of the other "at risk" parts of the engine.

So to help with alleviating my paranoia and so I could enjoy riding it a bit more I invested in some ACF-50, and have sprayed this pretty much everywhere I can get to. It seems like magic stuff, and is supposed to neutralise existing rust as well as preventing new. It also did a fantastic job of cleaning some parts of the bike that other cleaning stuff did not and keeps things looking glossy. Supposedly it should make it easier to clean (rinse down), but too early to tell yet. I read that because it stays wet, it might attract and hold dust, but I have not noticed this, if it does after time I am sure a rinse down with "Muc Off" will clear that.

Thank you for the positive words lads, and Frankie, yes I did hear it running in all its glory when I went to go view the bike before purchasing, and that was less than a week ago. The batteries out now so i'll take it in to the garage tomorrow if i get time

It really does sound like the battery. The happened to me in Jan when my new bike was delivered. The Delivery guy started it do demo the controls, and I pushed it around the back of the house. 4hrs later I tried it and no go at all . . . It was trying to start the first couple of times, then would just click. Lights and control panel still lit up though.

Luckily I had bought an optimizer at the same time, so I connected it up and sure enough it was very low, charged for an hour, and tried again. Bike started first time Then had to charge it for about 12hrs to get it back to full health, and its been fine since.

Good luck

Run it for longer distances and the emulsification in the oil should go. It is short runs that does it.

The original oil will clean the internals out of any swarf etc. Change it (get it dealer serviced to be on safe side) at 1000k and they should check all tolerances etc.

The running in period should give a chance for any minor niggles (your whistling for example) to be identified and all sorted at first service.

Run it and get some miles on it - the sound may even disappear!

Cheers Hoody,

Went for a longer run and that seems to have a had a bit of an impact, the oil definetley looks darker. I want to go for a good long run this weekend if I can, though it started snowing again today!!, but if it holds off then Sunday is the day

Looks like the Whistle is probably here to stay, though I hope it quietens down a bit. Actualy the mech today said that I may notice that the engine is generaly a little quieter after the oil change due the replacement oil being a bit thicker(??)

So went in with the bike this morning, and the mechanic had a look at mine whilst I was there (which was good).

Sure enough he could hear the whistle, and after a closer inspection he said it was coming from the fuel pump, hence why it was obviously louder around the tank. Whats more he checked a couple of other kwaks and they all did it to some extent. I listened to a versys and a brand new er6-f and yup they both whistled. I would say mine was more noticable but "normal" it seems.

Thinking about it, maybe it's because mine is working harder as I seem to have gone through nearly a tank of fuel in the last 70m, and that surely can't be down to my rubbish, beginner riding style

I'm going to have to "tune out" the noise and get on with riding the bike then . . I think a lttle more speed may just do it

I'm going on the Friday, driving not riding though ( ) as my pass out is conditional on taking my (much) better half with me and then taking her out in london that night, plus I need the boot space for the stuff I buy

I hope its better than the the NEC show where the general concensus seems to be it was a wash out!

Cheers

Stuart

Hope its nothing serious!

Although it would all be covered under warranty anyway! (hopefully!!)

Yes, still have 23months of warranty left

it's booked in for 9am tomorrow. The guy in the service dept did not have any immediate ideas about the whistle, but he did say right away about short trips and the oil being cloudy.

i've heard of a porsche whistle, and it was found to be a crankcase seal, as the internals are pressurised when the motor spins, and it was sucking in air through a dodgy seal.. get a dealer to have a look....

Thanks, could be something like that and I guess it might also explain the exess moisture in the oil. Going to call the dealer in 15min, to see what they say. No doubt it will be "bring it in and we will take a look" so it will be a ew days till I find out what it is. Will keep the thread updated though.

Thanks for the info, The oil thing does not sound that big a problem then, and I guess a good long run to heat up and get out the moisure would clear this? I have not been on more than 10m rides at a time so far (just running myself in at the same time as the bike ), so probably thats the cause. Unfortunatley due to the noise problem I likley won't be going out untill I am sure everything is ok.

Its due for an oil change at 600m, but I was planning to get it done at 100 - 200m anyway beause of the advice I have seen on the general forums. So when I contact GW tomorrow I may just get this booked anyway.

Cheers

Stuart

Thanks guys.

It does not seem to be comming from the exhaust and does not pick up with the revs. Its the same in all gears and idle at all speeds and starts as soon as the engine turns over, and yes its quite annoying.

Even though I am older I can still hear it Guess it would be much more irritating if your high frequency hearing is good, but possibly it would stop any young asbo types nicking it, ha ha.

Seriously though it is a bit worrying as the bike is brand new, and I will be on to the dealer (George Whites - Swindon) to see what's up, I hope their after sales service is good.

As a seperate thing (at the risk it may make me think that I got a lemon), should the oil window be cloudy like the attached pic with the oil looking a bit milky, unlike the noise which was there from mile 1, this has clouded over in the last few days? Like I said the clock has only 50m on it, all done in the last two weeks

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Here is a recording of the noise. The noise is constant, but varies in this clip as I move the microphone around the engine.

Edit:: I have added the file again as an mp3, instead of the m4a (itunes format).

er6_whistle.zip

er6 Whistle

er6_whistle_mp3.zip

er6 whistle mp3

First thing I would check, would be petrol filler cap. It is known to happen, as the bike uses petrol and creates a negative pressure inside the tank, the air going in whistles.

Its either that or someone has a kettle on

If it isn't that ... i'll get a thinking

Thanks Dan,

I did see a post on another forum about the ninja 250 petrol cap whistling, so I did a quick check on this and with the cap open the noise is still there. It sounds sort of mechanical and possibly comming from just below the tank. I will have to try and get a recording of it in the morning to post. Sounds like you don't think this is "normal" then?

Cheers

Stuart

Hi all,

Its great finally being able to go out on my new bike, an 09 er6-f.

I've only covered 50m so far, not much I know, but I plan to do a lot more as the weather allows.

Anyway it's all good so far and it rides well, but as it's my first bike I don't really have a point of reference and I just wanted to check one thing . . . . .

The bike is brand new, and from day one (about 3 weeks ago) I have noticed a constant high pitch whistle when the engine is running. It's loudest if I put my ear over the centre of the tank, just behind the filler cap, but I can easily hear it when seated normally on the bike. Is this normal?

I did a few searches and did not find anything that seemed similar for this model so if anyone can shed some light or if you have an er6 and can verify that you do/don't hear this then that would be great.

Cheers

Stuart