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I'll update this thread when they're fitted (hopefully Friday), but for now, here they are... There is a teeny tiny mark on one of them (You'd have to get pretty close and really be looking to see it) but other than that they look brand new.

They're the exact ones from Performance Bikes Magazine's suped-up TL1000R which was featured in a few articles in 2015:

I'm informed they didn't have them long and then they were returned and placed into storage until now.

Mrs has PR4's on her CBR, which I've been out on a good few times now (used it to commute to and from work before lockdown during all that flooding). I have R5's on my bike.

Honestly, the 4's are great. I didn't notice anything in the wet that I would attribute to the tyres.

The 5's supposedly have better wet-grip when part worn, I think that's their main advantage. Hard to tell tbh, I haven't had to do an emergency stop on both in heavy rain. And even if I did, the CBR is a different bike, has ABS, is lowered and the suspension is set up for Mrs, not me. So I still wouldn't be able to do a fair comparison.

If you can get the 4's much cheaper, I'd go with them. If they're of similar price or you're not fussed about the money, go with the 5's.

Is it just me that thinks his braking (forgetting the rest of his riding) was atrocious?

Almost looks like he barely touched the front and slammed on his rear. He was doing what 85~ when it came into view? I'd like to think with what were presumably warm tyres on dry roads he could have scrubbed off a lot more speed than he did. Good job looking at the gap and not the truck though!

-- edit --

Did bit of investigating/research.

So he had 4ish seconds from when he reacted to when he would have made contact...

According to this article: https://www.visordown.com/features/general/zero-100mph-zero

A GSXR k7 can stop from 100mph in 4.5 seconds, an old Thunderace with tired rubber hoses can do it 5.1 seconds.

But that's from 100, and as we know stopping times/distances get exponentially bigger the faster you're going.

I'd like to think with good braking skill he could have stopped or at least been doing <15mph by the time he got to the hazard. So much so that the first time I watched it my immediate thought when I saw the truck was, 'oops, but he should be able to stop in time'.

I get that he likely eased off the brakes and chose to avoid the hazard, a very wise decision... but he was still doing over 60mph by the time he got there, from a speed of about 85mph. He managed to shed what 25mph in 3-4 seconds? He needs to slow down and do some braking practice imo.

I guess it's possible he was 2 up or something... but if he was he's an even bigger idiot than I initially thought xD

I've always wanted to see two people in one piece leathers have a fight for this reason.

Me and my mate used to get boozed up, geared up and then knock crap out of each other... great fun. Full leathers, gloves, boots, helmets everything.

On the road my best on any bike ever... 260 miles on the road on a CBF125, tank is only 13litres as well!

Worst: About 75miles. That's what you get for down gearing and riding like a tit.

I've found the biggest factor in price for me is where it is stored.

If I have it as 'private drive', 'enclosed private area' or 'on the street' I get exactly the same quote.

Put it in a locked private garage and it drops down from like £2,000 to £450.

Well I’m quite surprised about that as mine is 100% solid in place and just checked after reading this.

They do apparently however have a six months replacement policy if anything untoward happens.

I’d say ungluing is definitely untoward.

Unfortunately I can only recommend as I find and as I say mines fine.

Personally I’d be contacting them and explaining what’s happened and I hope they’ll be able to help.

 

I totally get it, to be clear i'm not criticising yourself in any way shape or form, just giving out my own experience.

I've taken your advice and contacted them, and we'll see how their customer service responds... If they replace it for free, and the next one doesn't fall off within 3 months i'll be a happy man. These things can and do happen occasionally.

Well I reached out to them on 16th March and they still haven't replied... Possibly COVID, but I doubt COVID has prevented them from replying to their emails. Especially as on the 16th it was really having a huge impact on day to day work life yet.

Can't speak for the Shiver, but both of my old RS125's were the most unreliable bikes I've ever owned.

I loved it to bits... I'd have another if I could afford to have some other bugger maintain it for me.

Love Aprilia's... hated the constant maintenance/repairs on the two I owned. Brake discs warping, callipers getting seized, various cables snapping left right and center, front headlight falling off inside its mount. You name it lol. And that's on top of all of the expected 2-stroke/carb maintenance.

However, it's possible that in the last 20 years they've become a lot more reliable, or that the RS125 model was just a one off unreliable model amongst a bunch of otherwise reliable Aprilia models. But then again they're Italian so it's equally likely they haven't and the problems affected all of them! xD

Treated the GSXR to a set of BST Carbon Fibre wheels. Should arrive by the end of this week. Found a good deal, and I always wanted a litre bike with a set of these on, so really quite excited!

£750? They're only £700 in sportsbikeshop new... £660 on demontweaks...

Might want to drop the price a little

Can they be mains powered too?

I recognise this road... was it you who posted a video going down this road on a snowy commute or something recently?

Well I’m quite surprised about that as mine is 100% solid in place and just checked after reading this.

They do apparently however have a six months replacement policy if anything untoward happens.

I’d say ungluing is definitely untoward.

Unfortunately I can only recommend as I find and as I say mines fine.

Personally I’d be contacting them and explaining what’s happened and I hope they’ll be able to help.

I totally get it, to be clear i'm not criticising yourself in any way shape or form, just giving out my own experience.

I've taken your advice and contacted them, and we'll see how their customer service responds... If they replace it for free, and the next one doesn't fall off within 3 months i'll be a happy man. These things can and do happen occasionally.

well I've just found the perfect solution to the helmet fogging problem.

forget the pinlock at about £25/£30 a throw or a cheaper version on ebay.

I've just fitted a weepro visor insert after seeing some test results on you tube.

absolutely no fogging whatsoever.

£19.95 including postage.

check it out on you tube.

if there's ever a product that does what it says on the tin it's this one.

Wanted to update on this. As mentioned earlier in this thread I bought one of these for the Mrs and rated it highly... It worked well and is cheaper than a pinlock. I was even going to get one for my helmet next time I needed to replace my own pinlock(s). Unfortunately, the Mrs' one has just come unglued inside her visor while she was riding along. Just popped out in her face, properly scared her.

I cleaned her visor with alcohol before applying it and applied it in warm temps (indoors). If anything when I put it on my major concern, was that we wouldn't be able to get it off again. I really didn't expect it to just fling off by itself. Could be a one-off but I'm quite disappointed tbh

Someone didn't see the petition post

 

Dammit nope! Linky?

 

https://themotorbikeforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=72089

Kthx...

Agree, never going to happen. And no you shouldn't trust an indicator. I still stand by my statement though

people not indicating .... if only some one would start a petition...

 

This is one of my biggest peeves with driving in the car too... approaching an island, someone is at the exit to my right, I slow down, they pull out, I stop and they take the first exit without indicating. Thanks f**ktard

 

Someone didn't see the petition post

Dammit nope! Linky?

people not indicating .... if only some one would start a petition...

This is one of my biggest peeves with driving in the car too... approaching an island, someone is at the exit to my right, I slow down, they pull out, I stop and they take the first exit without indicating. Thanks f**ktard

I am usually around as i only live 10 mins away, often call there for a browse in the afternoon and sometimes have a brew

 

Lucky sod, I visit J&S a few times a year... it would be much more regularly if I lived closer. Need to go back there soon to get the zips changed on mine and the Mrs leather jeans (they don't fit our jackets).

 

Which branch do you use ?

Northwich, but tbh I didn't realise they had one in Wolverhampton that is likely closer to me.

Next time you are off to J & S let me know, I have a ride there sometimes.

 

I am usually around as i only live 10 mins away, often call there for a browse in the afternoon and sometimes have a brew

Lucky sod, I visit J&S a few times a year... it would be much more regularly if I lived closer. Need to go back there soon to get the zips changed on mine and the Mrs leather jeans (they don't fit our jackets).

I'm an all-weather rider, but I still want the bad weather to piss off. Two reasons.

I ride for convenience more often than fun when the weather sucks.

I'm sick of cleaning the bloody bikes!

An anti-slip seat cover and a set of strap-on love handles which make a huge difference for both of us.

We gave up on Anti slip seat cover she learned it was comfier to change position occasionally, love handles are just good so she has some where comfy to put her hands. She is now confident enough to that shes noted to not use them at the most inappropriate moment.

Filtering shes been seen to "tap" wing mirrors of cars that have moved to block , her hand signals have been noted to be the ones not in the highway code .

If she gets carried away a blip on the throttle and she reaches for the love handles , although the abuse I then get in the head set , I have learned not to .

Yeah, I imagine both the cover and the handles are very bike and riding style dependant...

The seat on the GSXR is basically a child's seat, the grip cover doesn't stop her moving about but allows her a touch more friction under braking. The handles also make life much easier for us both under braking. They tend to transfer weight down and through the bike rather than her through her arms on the tank or what I feared before we tried them which was forwards and through me!

Before I introduced both of those she would end up on my seat at least once a ride. Again, likely because I was too lazy to adjust the preload appropriately.

Nice (esp. the backpedalling). Good idea to let her get off for a U-turn! Just may I ask what bike do you ride and do you worry about the admissible payload of the bike (by the official paperwork), or not really? As that's my concern - we will definitely exceed that, and with some luggage for a longer trip, there is no bike in the world which has such a payload as us plus the little bit of luggage. After I get down to my planned/desired weight and her staying where she is, we'll be at the maximum payload of BMW K1300GT, that's naked, without wearing any bike gear . I know there were people who did outlanding on R1150/1200GS two-up with really heavy luggage carrying up to double of the admissible payload, but they had welded reinfoced rear subframe, and many of them broke that anyway, due to extra stress on offroad trails with all the weight on it - well I certainly do not plan offroading two-up, yet even with some extra cargo, for that she'd definitely need to get her own bike indeed.

 

When I was 20 I weighed around 9.5st and I took my 18st mate on the back of my old SRAD 750, not a problem besides the thing seriously wanting to wheelie with the tiniest twist of the throttle. Adjusting the preload first might have helped but honestly, I doubt it would have made that much difference without completely re-springing it!

I often take my Mrs on the back of my bike, she's a little heavier than me (less and less so these days!), again, not a problem. The only time it becomes an issue is during maneuvres. Or if I'm too lazy to adjust the preload and start pushing it around bends, then the pegs will grind.

If we have to u-turn I'll make her get off, I could probably manage, but why risk it? Also reversing (backpedalling) up an incline becomes an exercise in futility where hilarity and visor steaming laughter is bound to ensue with each and every attempt

"It's not so steep,.. I can do this... wait... hang on..."

3 minutes of duck-waddling and 0.5cm later: "Okay get just get off"

GSXR 1000, and we haven't done more than a couple of hour trip with a break about halfway. Anything more would be super uncomfortable for her, it's really not a bike for comfortable 2-up touring! We have some creature comforts though. An anti-slip seat cover and a set of strap-on love handles which make a huge difference for both of us. She has her own bike now so pillion rides are fewer and farther between but she still likes to ride pillion occasionally. Long journey's we take two bikes. Toured mid-wales last summer.

TBH I've never even checked the admissible payload! But I'd wear my gear and exceed it rather than ride naked and stay under it!

My chain got mangled last winter because I rode the bike all winter and didn't keep up with maint (weekly oil/lubing just wasn't enough).

So at the end of last winter, along with my new fancy x-ring 525 chain and -1+2 gearing swap, I bought a Scottoiler Xsystem which automatically drips oil on the chain every x seconds (setting dependant) whenever it detects that the bike is moving.

I keep it on a high setting to help wash grime off and I think I've felt the need to clean/lube my chain once in maybe 8k miles.

Up until a few weeks ago, that is, when would have highly recommended it, but suddenly it appears to just not be dripping quite as much lube as it used to.

It doesn't appear to be blocked, it still drips, just not as much as it did previously (even during Nov/Dec). My chain got rusty on the highest setting over Feb, and now the weather is warming up I would expect the oil to be thinning and for me to be turning it down to prevent too much spray. But I'm looking to turn it up and it doesn't go any higher.

Next, chance I get, I'll follow the hose and make sure there are no kinks/blockages anywhere. If I find none I'll contact support for a recall.

When I was 20 I weighed around 9.5st and I took my 18st mate on the back of my old SRAD 750, not a problem besides the thing seriously wanting to wheelie with the tiniest twist of the throttle. Adjusting the preload first might have helped but honestly, I doubt it would have made that much difference without completely re-springing it!

I often take my Mrs on the back of my bike, she's a little heavier than me (less and less so these days!), again, not a problem. The only time it becomes an issue is during maneuvres. Or if I'm too lazy to adjust the preload and start pushing it around bends, then the pegs will grind.

If we have to u-turn I'll make her get off, I could probably manage, but why risk it? Also reversing (backpedalling) up an incline becomes an exercise in futility where hilarity and visor steaming laughter is bound to ensue with each and every attempt

"It's not so steep,.. I can do this... wait... hang on..."

3 minutes of duck-waddling and 0.5cm later: "Okay get just get off"

As others have said, this appears to be just normal London ungaraged parking. To be certain just switch your settings to 'garaged' and see how much the quote comes down.

You could get one of these:

https://www.asgardsss.co.uk/motorcycle-storage

They're expensive but many insurance companies will class them as 'garaged' hugely bringing down the premium. Could save you a couple of grand in the 1st year and cost you nothing after that.

Just be sure to get in writing that it classes as a garage from the company you go with. Don't just trust the guy on the end of the phone's word for it.