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23 minutes ago, Steve_M said:

Did we lose the point of the original post somewhere? Nothing to do with whether your bike / lawnmower* / whatever is capable of running using the damned stuff, but the potential damage to unprotected surfaces. Having had to replace the screen on my bike at great expense, I think it’s a valid point.

 

* I do need to check my lawnmowers (yes, I have four - I used to be a gardener, and we have a lot of grass to cut here ). 

I doubt E10 is any more destructive than E5 to be honest? Clean off petrol spillage ASAP on anything is a good idea. 

Just now, DuRavary said:

I keep a record of all my full tank to full tank fill ups and the effect of using 95 E10 over 95 E5 or 98 is insignificant. The roads used make a much bigger difference as does riding style. With the car the biggest mpg killers are, (as you would expect) having anything on the roof rack but more surprisingly carrying a mountain bike on a rear mounted carrier. Aerodynamics are important. It’s also worth pointing out that over the years E10 sold in Germany and France, and probably other places, has been significantly cheaper than 95 E5. Another bonus. 

HMRC will makes sure it's NOT significantly cheaper here that's for sure 

18 minutes ago, PaulCa said:

If you are in a comfortable and unrushed place with flexibility as to how you pay/finance a vehicle.  The best way to deal with them is present them with what you want.  Reject what they offer in return.  Walk away.  Stand your ground and as long as your wants are not ridiculous they will come down much further towards you then you expect.

The down side of me right now, is... I want the bike, NOW!  I want to get some decent miles on it, before I have to garage it for winter.  If I have to wait till mod november, that ain't happening.  As soon as they salt the roads it's not longer a daily driver.

So the choice is black or red then  

Good luck !

10 minutes ago, PaulCa said:

 

I "think" it was £750 or £850 Total cost of credit.  Much more than £0.

 

It also allows me to be just as much of a prick as the dealer was to me, regarding deals.  Not only do they make a lot of commission the finance, but I am now in a position to deal with the lesser dealers with the pitch, "Cash price, today, on the road?"  and probably get better offers than I got from Honda main stealer.

 

"We don't make any money on these bikes.  Maybe £400 tops.  So we can only give you £100 off the list.", I even responded on the day with, oh come on, that's BS.  Retail markup is ALWAYS, AT LEAST 50%, usually more likely 100%.

But he knew I wanted the bike, so he had the upper hand.  Going on the 0% self finance, removes that upper hand.... except maybe on the delivery date - as I specced it.

I'm pretty sure they don't make anywhere near 50% but as you say if you buy it cash then you're quids in - PCP only exists as a way to sell new bikes to people who can't really afford them and can't see past the monthly cost !MHO. 

Sounds like a no-brainer to me. you haven't stated how much the PCP deal would cost you but I'm assuming a lot more even if the GFV is realised?

On 15/06/2021 at 07:32, jedibiker said:

I went on that a few times, each time not finding england in the drop down box no matter what I selected. may have a point with the oil.. which makes me wonder if any of these are actually better springs or if they just have us put better oil in lol.

I just tried this and "United Kingdom" is there when you select "Non-EU" countries ? The "Streetbox" looks like a good deal.

Ta - Goldwing has done 44005 miles

Seems odd that they'd rather spend £5.6k than £2k. I'd ring them up and ask for an explanation? 

Morning,

Just joined. I'm Niall, 64 and recently retired with too much time on my hands at the moment so spending far too much time on this computer. Been riding bikes since the mid seventies and currently have a 1998 VFR800 FI and an old 1984 Gold Wing 1200 Aspencade that was imported from the US in the 90's (have the original pink slip). I've had the VFR around six years and the Goldwing almost 30 years - been to most countries in Europe on it. It's been sat in the garage on SORN getting dusty for the last five years and I'm hoping to get it back on the road by next Summer.