tryme Posted September 8, 2011 Posted September 8, 2011 is it "safe" and often quite common for new riders to straight from doing a cbt onto a das course? my dad always tells me experience counts for a lot when it comes to riding and i dont want to silly and go straight from my cbt into doing a das and then having an major off a week into riding a "big" bike. Quote
sparkeh9 Posted September 8, 2011 Posted September 8, 2011 is it "safe" and often quite common for new riders to straight from doing a cbt onto a das course? my dad always tells me experience counts for a lot when it comes to riding and i dont want to silly and go straight from my cbt into doing a das and then having an major off a week into riding a "big" bike. I agree with your dad, experience does count for a lot. But whether it's safe to do that or not depends entirely on your mentality, and how confident (more importantly, over confident) you are. Remember, speed and perceived danger is directly linked to your wrist Quote
techno Posted September 8, 2011 Posted September 8, 2011 I know most people did a cbt at the start of their das course and passed in a week, its just a test its what comes after thats important and where you really learn. Quote
Silverspring Posted September 8, 2011 Posted September 8, 2011 I think it depends on the person but I know I would prefer to get experience on a little 125 than a big bike, far more forgiving of mistakes, then again if you go for DAS then buy a reasonable 250 (by reasonable I mean no race replica's ) I think you would be fine. I'm doing DAS next year, wanted to spend time on a 125 getting used to the difference between riding a bike and driving a car. Quote
Throttled Posted September 8, 2011 Posted September 8, 2011 Most DAS courses start on a 125 anyway. I did two lessons on a 125 before I started on the bigger bike.I bought a 125 to practice on as well. Quote
davefly76 Posted September 8, 2011 Posted September 8, 2011 I'm not a big fan of the "pass in a week" courses, they simply teach you how to pass a test, rather than how to ride safely, imo.However, I went from CBT straight to mod2 without practicing inbetween and my first bike was (and is) a GSX600F, not the quickest but still a decent sized 600cc bike. I took my lessons in a two month period, sometimes going two weeks between sessions which I think helped me process what I had learnt and think about the mistakes I was making, and how to fix them. Quote
steve s Posted September 8, 2011 Posted September 8, 2011 hi i did my CBT and bought a 125 ,i have been riding it for a few months to and from work most days (about 12 mls each way) and realize for me doing a course wouldn't have been the right thing to do .i feel that I'm getting more confident almost with every ride i have my mod 1 in a few weeks which i have practiced for on my own in car parks and the like but as for mod 2 i will have lessons .i consider getting a 125 the right thing too do jumping on a 500 with only a 5 day course under my belt would of been (for me )a very bad move .oh and I'm not 17 I'm 52 and have been driving for 32 years ,you cant bye experience no matter how much money you spend 5 days may get you through a test but it ain't going to make you a biker.all the best mate ,be safe.steve Quote
Throttled Posted September 8, 2011 Posted September 8, 2011 Even if I could have passed with lessons alone, I am glad I went with getting a 125 and getting around 2700 miles of experience under my belt before the Mod 2. Quote
guybandit Posted September 8, 2011 Posted September 8, 2011 Cbt to pass in 4 days with a really good school in Bradford. Not a problem. Experience is good but how about getting some experience on the kind of bike your going to ride for the foreseeable future. It's only gonna go as fast as you make it. Guy Quote
Rebel Rach Posted September 8, 2011 Posted September 8, 2011 Its an interesting question and there are advantages to both ways. Personally I went down the DAS route as I knew I wanted to ride a big bike. I booked a 5 day DAS course and passed both my mod 1 and mod 2 on day 4. In a little over 3 months I have ridden the best part of 4000 miles most of which have been on my own. Quote
Rollingskies Posted September 8, 2011 Posted September 8, 2011 I did day 1 CBT having never ridden a bike before. Day 2 was extra practice on a 125. Then the next week I did Day 3 on the big bike followed by day 4 big. The following week I did day 5 and mod 1. I was ready for my mod 2 test. Unfortunately it didn't take place until 6 weeks later because of the snow up here and my exams. So I did an extra day of lessons and then passed the test. So not your 7 day no-bike-to big-bike rider DAS, but roughly the same bike time over a period of time. Worked for me. Quote
Bogof Posted September 8, 2011 Posted September 8, 2011 I'm not a big fan of the "pass in a week" courses, they simply teach you how to pass a test, rather than how to ride safely, imo. Agreed!However, to answer the OP's question.... Yes it is safe, but training for life instead of just training for test is ultimately safer. Quote
Throttled Posted September 9, 2011 Posted September 9, 2011 A weeks course to pass is OK if you recognise that at the end of the week, compared to someone who has had months of road time on a 125cc with occasional lessons on the big bike inbetween, you have a lot of catching up to do to get that road time under your belt. Quote
XmisterIS Posted September 9, 2011 Posted September 9, 2011 Depends on the person - if you're naturally well-coordinated, deft and dexterous, then you'll probably pass and be ok.If, however, you're like me - the stereotypical nerd - academically and cerebrally gifted but with all the natural coordination of a daddy-long-legs, then I would recommend taking your time to learn on a 125.That's what I did. I learn mental stuff incredibly quickly, but my body is retarded ... Quote
getready Posted September 9, 2011 Posted September 9, 2011 I know most people did a cbt at the start of their das course and passed in a week, its just a test its what comes after thats important and where you really learn. This is so true. I did my CBT, then DAS and was on the road in under two months with only around 12/14 hours experience under my belt. I've learned more about riding since I passed than what I did on the DAS training.As for whether it's safe or not is down to you. Bigger bikes are easier to ride and you can still have a major "off" on a 125. Quote
Boro Jake Posted September 9, 2011 Posted September 9, 2011 I did CBT messed around for a year on a 125 then i completed the DAS.MOD 1 i'd say the riding experience wasnt really needed but for MOD 2 it did wonders for me, hence why i passed with 0 minors Quote
nman1 Posted September 9, 2011 Posted September 9, 2011 Wether you pass in a week or a year, you`ll still have those first few days/weeks on a bike out on the open road, so you`ll be learning from day one, either before or after the test. I did the lot within a month, I passed first time but even after 5 years riding I`m still learning different things from different people about different situations.Get it done mate and start to enjoy your biking. Quote
Jonabonospen Posted September 11, 2011 Posted September 11, 2011 I went from having never ridden a bike before to doing my CBT and passing my DAS within 2 weeks. Then got my first bike which was a ZXR750 sports bike, and I am still here to tell the tale, and touch wood have never had an accident. I am now 4 years on from passing my test and am still learning all the time. You never stop learning on a bike. As long as you are sensible about it and fully understand that just because you passed your DAS doesnt instantly make you a riding god, and that the bike WILL hurt you if you dont respect it and the other idiots on the road, then you will be fine.I say go for it Quote
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