Wiring Alarm / Immobaliser

[Guest]

Hey peoples

Right, got an alarm/immobaliser/remote starter here

and i want to wire it up..

I got most of the wiring done.. there is just one bit that i could do with help on..

To wire up my remote engien starter, it needs to be wired to my ignition barrel

(to be able to start the bike without inserting a key)

the wire diagram with my alarm says to wire 3 wires to the barrel wiring..

As you will see on the diagram they sent.. i have to attach the brown wire to the "black" wire on the barrel,

and cut the "black and white" wire, and join the pink and grey wires to it..

Well.. the "black" and "black and white" wires are actually different coloured on my barrel..

i have (from what i can see through the side of the headlight fairing)

BLACK, RED, GREEN and BLUE/RED

What bloody wires do the alarms pink, grey and brown wires go to?!?!?!?

I dont want to go pissing around with it, as its a new bike and still under warrant..

but the place i bought the bike from, said they didnt have time to fit it, but if i did it, they would stamp it for me, so that it doesnt affect my warranty..

Now i know the best idea would be to take it to a garage to do, but i really havent got any spare cash right now.. With just buying my bike, paying to change insurance over etc.. I really cannot afford it just yet

WIRING DIAGRAM FOR ALARM

http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo92/Badboyazza_2009/11008644_1649270085291775_3439896688905413868_n_zpstm4s6j7d.jpg

As you can see, they are telling me to wire the alarm coloured wires, to the black and black/white barrel wires.. MY BARREL WIRES ARENT THOSE COLOURS haha..

[Guest]

if it helps, i found wiring diagram in my owners manual..

But to be quite honest.. Wiring diagrams have always confused the shit out of me..

I get lost where im follow!!

Right, i tried to colour the ignition barrel wires as best i can,..

in order that they appear on the diagram

BLACK, RED, GREEN, BLACK/RED

http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo92/Badboyazza_2009/img007_zps2jclbyoj.jpg

this is the best quality i could scan it at.. its pretty scaled down in the book, so not the best quality..

Basically.. according to my alarms diagram..

I need the Igntion wire.. and the Barrel Earth out wire..

Im guessing the Black is the ignition wire.

Cheers guys

i really apreciate your help

[Tango]

Not the best Diagram Allan........but it looks like the red wire is the positive feed from the battery.....and the Black wire goes to the starter button (switched live feed) as well as the rest of the circuitry. Good luck buddy.....

[Joeman]

You're brave hacking the wiring of a brand new Chinese bike!

First electrical problem you get, the shop will blame your wiring.. I would at least wait until its a few months old before chopping it about.

Also, remote start must mean there is no immobiliser, and unless it detects neutral you could easily have it jump off its stand if you try to start it in gear.

[Guest]

when you remote start, you push the button twice.. once to disable immobaliser, and second to activate starter solenoid to crank the engine over..

Beautiful day, so took some nice pics of my bikey

Plus, alarm is installed.

easy peasy job actually..

i dont mind touching Chinese wiring.. If some of you remember, i bought that Black Skyjet (honda cbr replica), a couple years ago. battered up and wiring wipped out.. i rewired it nicely and rebuilt it up to showroom condition..

Pics:

http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo92/Badboyazza_2009/DSC_0004_zpsutnikphk.jpg

http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo92/Badboyazza_2009/DSC_0003_zpsapcn9snw.jpg

http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo92/Badboyazza_2009/DSC_0002_zps0d6p0yzp.jpg

http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo92/Badboyazza_2009/DSC_0001_zps3mt68inm.jpg

and Finally.. The "Show off button" as i like to call it

http://vid365.photobucket.com/albums/oo ... keuizg.mp4

[fq-craigus]

I wired in an alarm with remote start to my bike, wired all up as instructed but for the remote start feature to work i have to disable my immobiliser which im not going to do, its either have a remote start feature (which is cool but not nessisary) or have a working immobiliser stopping people from hotwiring the bike.

Could be different on yours but i would have thought principle is the same

[Guest]

I wired in an alarm with remote start to my bike, wired all up as instructed but for the remote start feature to work i have to disable my immobiliser which im not going to do, its either have a remote start feature (which is cool but not nessisary) or have a working immobiliser stopping people from hotwiring the bike.

Could be different on yours but i would have thought principle is the same

 

yes mate, completely different..

i still have immobaliser in tact, and a blue blinking LED.. (currently cable tied up and hidden under seat), dont fancy drilling a hole in fairings for it..

[Joeman]

Most immobilisers work by having a transponder in the key or on a key fob. If you can start your bike remotely with the key not close to the bike, you have no immobiliser.

[fq-craigus]

I wired in an alarm with remote start to my bike, wired all up as instructed but for the remote start feature to work i have to disable my immobiliser which im not going to do, its either have a remote start feature (which is cool but not nessisary) or have a working immobiliser stopping people from hotwiring the bike.

Could be different on yours but i would have thought principle is the same

 

yes mate, completely different..

i still have immobaliser in tact, and a blue blinking LED.. (currently cable tied up and hidden under seat), dont fancy drilling a hole in fairings for it..

So no immobiliser then? What alarm did you get? Spy? The blue led sounds familiar

[Guest]

ahhhh, perhaps not then., Never mind.. if it gets hot wired, i can cut the engine off the with key thob too

[fq-craigus]

ahhhh, perhaps not then., Never mind.. if it gets hot wired, i can cut the engine off the with key thob too

only if you know its been pinched, is it the spy you have? If so i wouod check your range as the advertised 5000m is very unrealistic. 2/3 of a mile average range.

[Guest]

nah mate. its a NCS alarm.. N Cook Security..

That was the first thing i checked, the distance...

and to be fair.. its plenty distance.

didnt have anything to measure the max distance the key thob worked, or know anything to describe it..

But yeah.. its a fair distance

[fq-craigus]

Ncs make the spy, all their series are essentially the same alarms

[Guest]

Ncs make the spy, all their series are essentially the same alarms

 

ahh, learn something new everyday

Im not fussed wether its an expensive alarm etc.

Just aslong as it beeps when its getting touched by unwanted hands. and has the "show off button"