VOGE R125 New Tyre Recommendations?

[Guest]

Hi,

 

Had my Voge 125 a couple of months no, no issues with bike at all except for the tyres, the don't seem great in colder conditions.

Any recomendations for good, all year round tyres for this 125?

 

The size is :

 

FRONT TYRE
110/70 R17

REAR TYRE
140/60 R17

 

Thanks

[RideWithStyles]

Hi,

depends on your use case (commute, summer use only etc) and what was on already so we know what not working for you?

pirelli Angel city are good all round tyres as our 125 had them on as a all year use, only near freezing do you have to give them a few miles to let them come up to temperature before throwing them about on greasy kack coated round abouts, quite good results with different pressures.

harder carcass then the mich but softer than bridges. Life span is sort of lower to middle.

michelins are very good in cold weathers, in the very hot temps they can get very warm but due to the soft carcass they are sensitive to pressures and what people see as lack of feel. If want a comfortable quiet tyre and can just trust them blindly to do their thing this is the one. Mileage is good with these but can be costly.

 

some seem to be a fan of Bridgestone (I am not) bt46s but they are a harder carcass and older design. These can feel more plastic but some want the tyre to shout at them to tell them what’s going on if this is you then ok. Life span is quite good but most of the time cheaper to buy.

 

i didnt mind the continentals personally but the wife wasn’t as keen on them.

 

if it’s truly all year and rural use anlas winter grip might be worth a try.

 

If its true budget and good/mild weather use only maxxis and cst might be worth a go but life span will be low.

[Guest]

I use bike probs 40% of the time, car the rest, try and go out most weathers, just not when its super windy or icy/freezing. I use bike for commuting and for going on little ride abouts mainly.

 

Thanks for info, i'll go check those out.

 

 

[ChrisBiggsUK]

I don't really have any basis for comparison since I'm new myself, but I have Pirelli City Demon on the front and replaced the City Demon on the back with a Michelin Pilot Street when the back got too worn and both have worked well over these cold, wet, frosty months.  I'd probably be better off if I had matching front and rear tyres, but neither have given me any grief.

[Fiddlesticks]

Not sure if they do them in your sizes, but Michelin Road 6's are great tyres.

[Guest]

I'll go look, thanks. Not that i know what good tyres look like, but they look cool!

[RideWithStyles]

They do, about £280 just for the tyres supplied.

dont be concerned about tyres that are a generation or two older in tech - so with michs i

will be road 5, 4, 3, pilots etc they were great then and still Great now just cheaper - as long as they are still fresh from manufactured, by buying it from a reputable retailer it’s golden.

Edited February 7 by RideWithStyles

[Guest]

Just been looking at the rear tyre size on my bike, hardly any choices at all.

So another questions, the 140/60 R17, if i change it to an 140/70 R17 is that not a compatible tyre?

[RideWithStyles]

Depends on if we are talking fine details or accountability?

if the rim excepts that size, there is space for the mud guard, swing arm sides and u section, chain and tyre clearance …your manufacturer or tyre supplier will advise . but id say you could but if no other realistic options are available.

handling will most likely change a little bit due to the slightly higher profile and taking into accounts of the front tyres profile and wear, it wouldn’t make it death trap but certainly side by side like for like will be subtle, ud more more likely to notice a difference between manufacturer and models profile differences of the same sizes as a michs 120/70 road 6 will be different than saya dunlops road smart 4s of the same sizes rather than the 10mm over 140mm

Edited February 7 by RideWithStyles

[Fiddlesticks]

I guess the speedo / odo would be affected a bit?

[Guest]

ok, so i am unable to  find ANY tyres that are 140/60 R17 in the UK. Guess i'm stuck with these.

[Simon Davey]

20 hours ago, laughsatcats said:

Just been looking at the rear tyre size on my bike, hardly any choices at all.

So another questions, the 140/60 R17, if i change it to an 140/70 R17 is that not a compatible tyre?

The difference is 14mm between the rim and the outside circumference of the tread, not a lot at all. 

 

Written tyre sizes are a really weird way of describing the fit, it's a mix of MM, percentage, and inches, but it works so well. 

140/60/17=

 140mm across the width. 

 

Then the next number 60, is a percentage of the width. This is the profile of the tyre which determines the height of the side wall. In this case it's 60% of 140mm which is 84mm

 

Then the size of the wheel rim 17". 

 

Change that to 140/70/17, and the profile height changes to 70% of 140, which is  98mm. 

 

The difference is quite small. 

Just pop along to a bike shop with a workshop and ask. 

 

 

 

Edited February 8 by Simon Davey

[Hairsy]

Specifically ... circumference is Pi x diameter.

 

Diameter = diameter of the wheel PLUS 2 x the profile of the tyre (i.e. top and bottom).

 

Circumference of your current 140/60 17 tyre

Pi x (17 inches + 2 x 60% of 140mm)

3.142 x (432mm + 168mm)

1,885mm

 

Circumference of a replacement 140/70 17 tyre

Pi x (17 inches + 2 x 70% of 140mm)

3.142 x (432mm + 196mm)

1,973mm

 

Your replacement would have 88mm greater circumference which is an increase of 4.6%.

[Simon Davey]

Eh? Maffs was never my strongest  

 

So, a little more top speed, but probably only in theory. 

Edited February 8 by Simon Davey

[Fiddlesticks]

Always an education, this forum.

[Hairsy]

2 hours ago, Fiddlesticks said:

Always an education, this forum.

 

That's somewhat kinder than the reaction I get at home to such things ... "Dad, you're such a sad loser".

[bud]

If you wanted to go up to a 70 section on the back wheel. I just got these for my son and he loves them. So much better than the stock tyres on his yamaha. https://www.demon-tweeks.com/uk/pirelli-angel-city-motorcycle-tyre-package-2003069/

[Guest]

Thanks so much, i'll ask at the shop.

[RideWithStyles]

Mathematically correct but realistically and in the real world it is not.

No two models of the same manufacturer tyre is the same profile even with the same sizes, let alone different manufacturers.

even when changed the tyres if you pay attention to the details prior to wear of the old one, some tyres will be closer to the mud guard than others even with the same size and pressure put through it- was true with the cbf125, zx6, Daytona, beneli, gsf.

If you question, hence why a Dunlops RS4 might be more stable but its steering is slower than say a Pirelli Agt or a mich even though they are same size and pressure? Because the profile is different, mathematically it will be somewhere near but how a manufacturer gets or sees that is up to them, add in a difference in rear profile and the character changes again even if you said 120/70 fronts and 160/60 rears or another matching of your choice.

 

As a general rule If I was to recommend any tyre to someone I didnt know, didn’t know what they wanted, need or liked id say two manufacturers you can’t go wrong with first would be Michelin and they really go out to make sure it ticks as many boxes for the user and Pirelli. 
You could try to make the tyre soft and forgiving while with pressure already high but most of the time or the average road user is very difficult when the tyre is harder and plastic feeling but its easier to take the pressure up ways to make have more feeling and safe when it’s a softer tyre. 

[smck75]

On 08/02/2025 at 21:45, laughsatcats said:

Thanks so much, i'll ask at the shop.

How did you get on?  Did you replace the 140/60 r17 tyre...if so, what with?

Edited March 9 by smck75

[Guest]

Long story...ended up with a different bike (Zontes ZT125 Z2) and i replced the CST tyres with Bridgestone BT46's

 

So all is good now !

 

 

 

[RideWithStyles]

Dont know if that counts as Out of the frying pan and into the fire or the other way round?

anyway forum will be happy to help,