Aye, but that could be construed as a slightly different kettle of fish Chic, you'd have a good idea that that'd be a safe risk .... good point and true other circumstance I'd consider not wearing a lid have also been mentioned. Generally I wear tailor my gear as to what kind of riding i'm going to be doing and the conditions, nipping into town (10 miles of backroads) if the weather is OK I'll wear an armoured light weight bomber jacket and kevlar jeans. longer runs and especially if I'm going to be riding fast its full leathers and back protector, Touring its textile jacket, leather trousers and backprotector.