Just to throw my defence in for the poor place.. Thouse are the not so great nights, Ive been 3 times in as many weeks and had none like that. The local council have already stuck their foot in, aswell as the local police and with the Aces suport there are notices all round to say this isnt the sort of behaviour thats Wanted their.. Some nights are Far better than others, granted, But dont say never.. The atmousphere is good on a decent night, the food isnt bad and the pepsi is Cheep (And not watered down.. ) Not getting at you by the way! Just like the place and like meeting forum members there so would be nice to meet you some time..