Difference between sucess and failure is so small they all only perform on good equipment Stoner won his championship on the duke when they went to 800 and ducati caught the japs out it was a steady decline form then on as i sort of said previuos, stoner knew the game was up and jumped ship to honda, im pretty sure even the mighty stoner couldnt win on this ducati, yes i think he would do bettter but not significantly. However it would have been nice to see him, pedders, lorenzo and rossi battleing next year unfortunatly hes decided to go fishing instead.