karinoushka

I think by full control he means hands on the handles while the engine is on. My boyfriend asked his motorcycling contacts. Their feedbacks is different as they identified two causes and two consequences. I opened the throttle and crashed his bike AND he left his engine running while not on the bike leaving room for anything to happen. Both at fault. In the case of a hijack the rider has full control (engine on, hands on throttle), in my case he had not. Hand on saddle, arm fully extent and standing behind. What gives me shivers is if a pedestrian saw him struggling, assumed his engine was off like I did, helped him by grabbing the handles instinctively and shot his bike on a kid passing by. Imagine how grave it could have turned out. If I had known his engine was running I would have NEVER hold his handle. I know full well handle is throttle. I'm not stupid Joe.

Welllll no. If something happens it's so easy to put the blame on the other, and you can't count on people's honesty. I learnt it the hard way here. My partner actually contacted this man and he lied on multiple occasions. I think the best one was "being on the bike". I mean if he had been on the bike to maintain stability I would have never hold the handle... which reminds me, I should buy a camera. As outrageous as it may sound, I advise everyone not to be helpful if it means you could get in trouble for whatever reason.

Yep, he looked pretty experienced at handling his bike, won't argue with that. To do such a risky manoeuvre with the engine on you're either terribly experienced or totally nuts. The thing is, once his bike was in, there would have been no room for him to get in the slot. He would have had to go all around the bay and access the front of his bike from the pedestrian side. One way or the other, I would have had to assist him. One way or the other, it would have happened. And if your handle catches on someone else's bike, do you claim the accident on the other's bike . I was miles away from thinking this bike was on doing such a manoeuvre. I guess, the saddest thing is that if I see someone struggle I'll force myself to stand by and look. That's against my nature. But hey, I'll learn to be selfish, after living in London since 8 years, I guess it's time!

Yes, it was an automatic.

Hi I was helping a guy park his bike in a curved motorcycle bay. Tight gap from the road side, ample room from the footpath side. Typical street corner. I pushed my bike as much as I could to make room for him. The gap was still not big enough so he jumped of his bike and pushed it in the slot, front first, hand on the saddle. I was by my bike next to the footpath so I grabbed the handle to prevent it from falling once it was far from him. Little did I know that he left the engine on and it flew away. Yes, unfortunately I was on the throttle side so it's the one I went for instinctively. Not proud. I accepted the blame and all. The entire thing was super humiliating. Thankfully no one was injured. Since then I've been reflecting on it. Was it blatant neglect of him to manhandle his bike with the engine on? Am I entirely to blame? What if someone had been injured? I doubt my insurance will cover the damage as there was no contact between my bike and his... Anyway, this is the second time I see a bike manhandling ending up in a crash, but I can't see any safety note on that, best practice, even in the theory. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks Ps: I promised myself to never ever help anyone parking ever again. It's an expensive mistake.