emmajaneg

Hey Emma I hope you are ok, glad it hasn't put you off biking, though not sure you want to hear my 6 month riding 1st accident.....it was a head on with a car I was on a Honda cg125 .....let me know if you want to hear more

 

Yo, Rich - Emma might not wanna hear about your off......but we do, for sure!

I will keep the inevitable discussion - re. the fact that we're like a row of old vultures, sitting on a fence all the while taking inordinate pleasure from the misfortune of others (Hmmm. ..there ought to be a word tor that..... ) arm's length and instead concentrate on the many learning points that your tale will inevitably gift to us all.

In the interests of clearing the decks so Emma can begin to marshal the resources necessary to fight and win her case, perhaps you could start another thread? I'm serious - this is one of the best ways of learning. I've had me fair share of incidents and events, and if anybody can use them to avoid making the same mistakes again, so much the better. The minute you stop learning you're probably in the ground.

And Emma, I know you're probably really pissed off at all this, BUT MAKE THOSE CALLS. It won't cost you owt but could make a big difference to the outcome of your travails.

Cheers

S23.

Thank you! You’re all absolutely fantastic people and so kind. This is all new to me (I’m still a baby according to most bikers) and so far I have just called insurance. I have been assured that it definitely didn’t sound like I was liable so, so far, so good!

No point talking to me. It has been made quite clear that I know nothing. I am unable to assist.

I would suggest that you speak to the forums resident legal and riding experts of which there are a few on this forum.

I only posted a comment because of the crap which was being spouted and which would give the experts on here a chance to make their comments.

There are several people on this site who will be able to provide the benefit of their legal and riding expertise who are far more knowledgable and qualified than me.

 

Duly noted. Now, what's your favourite biscuit?

Has to be a choc chip for me

Hey Emma I hope you are ok, glad it hasn't put you off biking, though not sure you want to hear my 6 month riding 1st accident.....it was a head on with a car I was on a Honda cg125 .....let me know if you want to hear more

I’d love to hear your story! Quite funny actually because I biker that had stopped to help me actually said “You Betta get back on a bike and have a story to tell young lady!” And I promised him I would. I struggle with anxiety so it’s best I don’t dwell on these things

@emmajaneg see now that I cam understand

How's the repair to your leg going.

Ohhh and as Stu said contact tc

The repair on my leg is okay so far! And I think I’m just gonna stick to ringing police etc

There is a man stood on the toad waving

 

What was the toad waving at? And why was a man standing on it?

I would say this is sufficient mitigation to get you off the hook: either you were temporarily distracted by this bizarre spectacle, or you were having an unexpected acid flashback. Don't worry about relying on recreational drug use as a defence in court - most judges enjoy a bit of Charlie in their spare time, so if they pretend to be shocked just ask them when they last snorted coke off a naked hooker.

Hehe I didn’t mean toad!

Not good hope not too serious. Get well soon.

 

I hope not too, have to have surgery tomorrow but all should be well, thank you!

 

Good to hear

Make the most of your NI payments and take it easy, what are they doing?

If you mean the driver etc, about 5 minutes ago just cried at them because they are using things I said when I was in a lot of pain against me

It's hard to tell, I can't work out who was exactly where, trailer and car parked on left, rider goes to pass, trailer has some one watching who may have been trying to warn rider and other road users, was trailer intentionally cutting into the road in reverse or was it poor reversing and they were going in wrong direction with rear of trailer,(it amazes me the stupidity of some folk with trailers and caravans)

Without all the facts I don't think anyone can say who was at fault.

Okay, I will try and explain the best I can

So if you can imaging the UK roads, we drive on the left, Tibet’s on the right. This pick up truck with a small trailer attached was stationary at the left side of the road. At this rate (when I noticed it there) I was going 40 mph. I then saw the man waving at me so I began to slow down, but unfortunately not enough. The man in the pick up truck then started to reverse backwards but into the centre of the road, when it was already too late for me to stop, so he was reversing regardless and clearly wasn’t looking . I ended up going into the corner of it (as originally I went to the other side of the road to take over as I had presumed it was parked). I’m not sure either but I have been told by the paramedics, nurses and of course family that I am not liable because of the small things such as:

• he had no lights connected to the trailer, so I saw no reverse lights or anything

• he had no hazards on the pick up truck or indicators, so you can assume they are staying stationary when you see that

• they did not give me enough time to slow down at all, so would have probably slid off anyway

• and again, most of my things have been damaged severely including my boots, helmet, phone, iPad, motorbike and me. His trailer was fine

Just out of interest, how do you have a head on collision with a trailer?

Okay so, it was on the left side of the road (looked like it was parked) I go to overtake it. There is a man stood on the toad waving but I didn’t realise that the trailer was actually reversing into the road and I couldn’t slow down in time, so I went into the corner of it, flipped over handlebars and fell on my bum! I thought it was my fault but I have been told it was there’s, as they shouldn’t have been reversing on a A road

 

sorry to hear .

as for liability i will be the awkward sod and think you will be held liable .

There is no law about not reversing on a a road .

From your words you saw the vehicle but you didn't see the attendant warning you and your words couldn't stop in time .

Really hope you mend quickly but be prepared for the worst re insurance wise .

https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/using-the-road-reversing.html

Not sure I will be to be honest, the trailer did not have lights connected at all so I couldn’t have known he was reversing, no hazard lights were on and man waving at me isn’t food enough unfortunately. He was attempting and failing st reversing into his driveway with a trailer attached which is a very stupid thing to do, and I have been told by the paramedics that I am not liable for the accident. Not only that, his trailer had no damage , I took the brunt of everything including my bike lol

and the day after you finds all the sore bits you didn't notice the day of the accident.

 

Make sure you complain about every little injury, when I was in all hospital cared about was obvious leg injury, I didn't bring up minor aches and pains elsewhere at the time but some of these have gone on to be more severe now and having to go through referrals via GP which takes forever, wish I complained more while at hospital and would had been more likely diagnosed and sorted earlier.

I have been, when I was in A&E and a skin graze on my bum was hurting more than my knee lol but they just ignored me and said they needed to concentrate on my knee

I hope you get well very soon ..tell the B/F dont worrie if he's shaken up just give him a kiss .. you get a new bike so that's all sorted get well ..

Thank you lol, he’s okay now he’s sleeping finally

Were you wearing protective kit?

I was Yes, however it was normal jeans from Tesco’s, which I recommend because they didn’t tear lol!

I did cause a lot of traffic though, and the guy that caused it had to nerve to ask if I could move my bike to prevent traffic lol!

.....Don't they always? I was taking my wife's CB125 to Rye's of Fulham one morning for its first service when we were filtering down the outside of a line of traffic on Brixton Hill during the rush hour, about 0830...... The bloke in front was on a yellow 400/4 and got taken out by the old classic "queue of traffic stops to let van turn right across queue from side turning on the left".

Matey was only wearing a business suit with shoes and the split front bumper on the van just smashed through his left shin bone (tibia), there was just a bloody big hole from the knee to the ankle pumping bright, red blood out......I jumped off, and it had just started to rain. This was not a "pressure on the wound job", I trod into his groin very hard to block the femoral artery (but it's very deep) and took off my belt to use as a torniquet. Managed to get this round his thigh, and the bleeding started to abate.........so basically this bloke was lying in the road, bleeding to death (all over lucky old me) when this arse in the car immediately behind us was tooting his horn and making "can you get out of the way" signs. Answer was "fuc*ing NO!!!!!"

Anyway, ambulance came, and as they were loading matey inside, by this time he was on entonox, and asked me the classic "is my bike OK?"

I did hear that he lived -- dunno if he kept his leg tho'. Wouldn't be surprised if not. And to cap it all, when I got to Rye's, the workshop manager said "your're late". I just said "see this blood? Well, it isn't mine......." . Nothing else was said........

So see, there's always somebody worse off. Even if it doesn't seem like it.

 

I also don’t think my bike will be mended, it was checked out and the engine has a hole in it, the fuel tank has ruptured and everything else is just in bits!

.....mere cosmetic damage. Trust me.........

Hehe bless you, a biker came to my rescue and was telling my that my bike was the last thing I needed to think about, bless bikers honestly, yall are so lovely

Knees shmees you’ve got another one and will be dandy Seriously though hope you mend quickly

I’m not sure you’ll be wanting to hear the injury stories some have to tell.

Chin up.

How did the collision occur?

 

Hehe thank you! So basically a car with a trailer attached was parked at the side of the road, I went to the right to overtake and it started reversing, I went straight into head on! Bike is smashed to pieces and so is my knee lol.

 

Holymoly that is hard luck

The bike being smashed up is so very disappointing but by the sounds of things I’m glad it’s only your knee that got it!

Will it recover on its own or will in need a bit of surgery to send things in the right direction?

Don’t suppose there’s anyway they admitted liability and you have a witness?

Yes I am very lucky I didn’t break anything, and I accidentally admitted liability at the start because people were arguing and I was in a lot of pain, but I got quickly shushed they haven’t admitted anything and we are going to get insurance details and claim, also my boyfriend was riding behind me on his bike so he is a witness!

Not good hope not too serious. Get well soon.

 

I hope not too, have to have surgery tomorrow but all should be well, thank you!

 

Good to hear

Make the most of your NI payments and take it easy, what are they doing?

Thank you! I’m out of surgery now, I had to have the wound washes out throughly and sewn up as it was so deep, and I’m well now! Thank you for asking

Metal body parts will make you a proper biker.

Unfortunately I missed out on the metal body parts but I will have a massive scar now on my knee!

Oh no @emmajaneg I'm so sorry to hear that. Hopefully you aren't too sore.

As something to read as you heal. I'm lucky that I haven't had anything bad on the motorbike yet. But on my bicycle once I caused a road closure on the Mendip Hills after hitting a wall at 30mph. I got a speed wobble going downhill and got thrown off the bike, meeting the road and then the wall.

It was embarrassing for four reasons:

1) the road closure. And later seeing my friend's post on Facebook about how they got caught up in a road closure there without realising it was me they were scraping off the road

2) my poor wife was in London and got a phone call from the mountain rescue chap that was called as a first responder to me, and had to rush home on the train worrying about me (at least she said she did)

3) my parents were at my cousin's birthday party and had to leave to come to A&E. That was embarrassing as I had lied to my cousin & uncle about why I couldn't go, when secretly I just wanted to go out on my bike. And rather than be honest... Well, they found out the real reason eventually eh

4) to get through A&E the ambulance had to drive right through the middle of the Bath Half Marathon which was on at the time

I've still got a facial scar from it and had a week off work as my face ballooned and it took me about four days before I could see out of both eyes again.

The absolute worst part was when I asked if my bike was ok, and everyone around me said "don't worry about the bike". So instantly I knew the bike wasn't ok

I did get it fixed up though and still own it.

Damn that’s a rough one there! I did cause a lot of traffic though, and the guy that caused it had to nerve to ask if I could move my bike to prevent traffic lol! What was more horrific was my boyfriend was right behind me on his bike and saw the whole thing bless him, he was quite upset. And I also don’t think my bike will be mended, it was checked out and the engine has a hole in it, the fuel tank has ruptured and everything else is just in bits!

Heal well, be kind to yourself.

Thank you, I shall be!

So glad you're generally ok, please don't let this put you off bikes . When the knee stops stinging this will make you a safer and ultimately a better rider. In the meantime, here's a picture of Bob being particularly fluffy to cheer you up .

Hehe I’ve come off quite a lot now but this has been the most serious! And that was what I needed to see today, was floofy cat! Thank you!

Just out of interest, how do you have a head on collision with a trailer?

 

Ride straight into the back of it?

 

So, not head on then, the very nature of a trailer is it's behind something. However, let's hope she has a speedy recovery.

It wasn’t the back of it no, apologies when I say head on I meant I went into head on myself, sorry to confuse you all

Forget the bike, it's how you are that matters, hope it's not bad and heals quickly.

Hehe I was sat there will blood all over and I just kept asking, what about the bike? As I looked at glass it could have made me cry thank you!

Mend soonest

You’re young and will recover quickly

Thank you! I hope so too

Oh no!!! Wishing you a speedy recovery, @emmajaneg .

Thank you so much!

Just out of interest, how do you have a head on collision with a trailer?

 

Ride straight into the back of it?

 

Emmajang says “head on” in her post.

Yup, my front of the bike went straight into it!

Just out of interest, how do you have a head on collision with a trailer?

 

Ride straight into the back of it?

I actually went into the corner, just to be special

Not good hope not too serious. Get well soon.

I hope not too, have to have surgery tomorrow but all should be well, thank you!