RideWithStyles

Hi

yes they are good and trustworthy, it will be a trusted parallel twin engine (can sound nice if you like that sort) rather than a v twin that most bigger engine snobs will gawp at.

Will be easier to muscle around the yard/pub, cheaper to service and run.

I wasn’t particularly into the nakeds or cruisers when I was younger too, but had a few nakeds now and a sensible cruiser going on roadster will probably be the next bike.

an individual changes over time and that is fine, looks stupid when a middle aged man is fighting the gut/aged/bike problems that still think they are 20 and a sports bike is right as it is what they have always had before.

so what I’d say is go and have a look and sit on one, see if it fits you fine. 

First things first: bike then rider.

ill guess this is a early r6, what year? RWU forks?

an r6 was for bean poles or average young males back in the day not chunky middle aged ones now, so for a female it most likely will still be good if it’s had a good tlc life. 
I learned to drive first then 10years later I jumped from not knowing how to ride a bike to a 600cc 100hp in the space of a few weeks, wife went from timid and not knowing how ride or drive to getting on with a 125 cbt first time out with help and encouragement from me, 5 or so years later passed her car license first time.

bike yes steering damper will slow and mask a basic geometry of the bikes design. Ohlins steering dampers are good to a point (depending on is internal setup), yet ohlins SD’s were very weak in durability and design for these parts, always have been, most changed them to other makes, Plus having to keep winding on of off to get to work best gets tiresome.

their forks and shocks are much better, though less durable but replaceable/serviceable parts are better stocked than say Showa etc.

its great that you understand spring rates, bikes they are very sensitive to geometry changes, compression and rebound far greater than cars, and unless you really get the trick suspension kits and use on track for a car but it’s difficult to know what your looking for with a bike.

what setting is the bike on now and its service of the forks and shock? What’s been changed/modified?

was the last owner a track goer med group, 90 kg, hardly any road? That set up will be totally different for your requirements. Or did he just had a fiddle with it and got lost and left it and just road it has it was and gotten used to it, just someone else will wonder if it’s broken or ill handling?
How many pre load front rings or turns out? 

What rebound and possibly compression turns out if it’s a later one?

rear pre load ramp setting or twin rings? What it at?

what rebound and compression (turns or clicks if it has it at?

when it’s cold and you push down very hard with the front brake on (make a visual not or the barley snugg zip tie trick) how far does it go down and when you let it return at its own will how does it behave? Does it slowly comes back or does it rush back bobs (count the bobs) at the top of the fork stroke? Then when the bike is hot or warm after a ride do the same again, does the return feel faster that it was cold or does it bob even more times than before?

Similar to the rear, but can you lift the rear up a little bit from its normal position, so you’ve got some dead space Over a bump (not a pot hole) if the shocks return is too fast and tops out to easily, Other wise the rear will be smacking up you in the arse and makes the rear twitchy and gives the front aload of strain and weight biase and likes it twitchy again.

What make and model of tyres are on it now and what pressures you run at? As TK mentioned that can have a great effect on its balance and handling.

pressure is two things related- weight and forces, if your a 90kg rider and some kit, just average scenery riding will need to be higher pressure than a 60kg rider in town.

So if your pressure is high for your weight, it will make to bike very responsive and crashy, if your intimidated by the bike because it’s too flightly you’ll never work it and the tyre to its capabilities and so the wear will be different/ could be worse but on the other end of the scale of visual wear patterns.
remember if you add a 90kg dude in a car its relatively like adding a small tank bag of stuff for a bike.
1600kg car plus passenger 90kg Is under 5%. Weight is shared between four points with a large platform.

200kg bike plus a 5kg bag is 5%. Weight is shared between two points with a very narrow platform, has great yaw effects. 
 

Your weight with kit (roughly). Urban, motorway, rural, track, legal limits or well over?

so yes r6 was never for new or timid riders as it was a spirited road bike at the time, but a modern one is far worse in that aspect. a little here and there tweak might be enough just to make it less intimidating till you get upto its level saving you paying twice or trice if it can be helped.

Its all to do with what you are happy to buy for the correct amount of money for its condition.

some wouldn’t batter much of an eye lid over a scratch or ding while others would cry and be filled with rage at the atrocity.
now a days theyre less metal and some are not a true tank in a sense, just a cover. They could add a few more to it in the mean time and just think well at least I didnt do the first one(s) or just replace it later on if they so wished.

It would be easier to see it.

Im still a little confused as to why the bike has to go backwards because of the cars either side as you put it?

Whats the set up there? If there are 4 spaces for 4 owners of the garage/apartments with the allocation of one vehicle per owner for example? your one of them, a bike is way smaller so way more space than allocated so plently of space, if one of them has two or more cars? tuff foolery they can leave the extra car somewhere else.

Like that Jodie and id probably comply but to be blunt from the sounds of it her garage neighbours are arrogant a holes.

to be honest they have no right or justification morally or otherwise to block access to the garage, if I was to make jab it would be because they can’t park, if they can’t park they can’t drive, they should give up driving. Which is why the Uk is full plebs with licenses.

If I couldn’t get the a holes to not be cretins I would just put some simple removable posts within you area of the garage drive space so the fook wits couldn’t park in the space and block it, if they continued to do as such regardless (there are people that would do that) they would be open to a note of they’re error first time, then the second time- ohhh kids/vandals these days…..

1 hour ago, jodieKti2 said:

There you go

 

 

Now can I ask you a question?  What's the difference between saw and seen ?  

 

I would question a few things with that pic. wtf is the faf person rather with a bottle bud on an oversized push rod metal ore on white walls and wearing a helmet size thT would make a mathematician envy? Oh hang on the American dream.

56 minutes ago, jodieKti2 said:

If you wore a cape would it catch light on the exhaust adding to the amazing effect just before you crashed ?   

Id love the thought of that but with the US thought a true one is impervious to all but the American winds, imitations are that and hypocrisy. 

3 hours ago, billysugger said:

We are not capable of such things

I think we are, just most are not stupid, without true incentives enough to do.

1 hour ago, Simon Davey said:

I reckon I could manage a mile or so with my jacket unzipped, would that count? Not until the weather has warmed up again though.

Ohhh ive seen that on YT, is that due to the equation of extra boob/moon drag , I think a Hyabusa might just be enough.

3 minutes ago, Simon Davey said:

 

Shooting season really is a pain in the arse/head/ears. 

Why SD? Do you look like a pheasant or have you upset the locals?
  

Nice, enjoy.

Must say there is load of difference between to manufacturers run in (bedding in) and fun run in, to fully running… doesn’t matter if it’s a bike or car it’s a ice engine. just that every engine has its switches of stages, there is more fun to come.

there is a great difference to an engine set up over than just its a SB, naked or other engine. 

Obviously you’re a marvel fanatic or play helldivers.

nothing better than to try something yourself?

while someone else is driving and nobody else is about, wear one, video yourself and stick out of the cars sunroof when it’s doing 70mph.
I think you’ll figure it out.

For me I’d still sTay away from them for a few more models years later for them to improve if this was to be your only bike.

yes some parts are shared or sourced by third party.

My actual experience with this type of bike (benelli) was certainly poorer. the parts and build quality, frames, paints, electrical loom, metals , lights (You could tell which came from where). worst I’ve had over very used jap, Brit or Italian bike previously.

I know the ex dealer and workers the bike came from didnt have a positive reply about them or the business practices. 

the good/better bits were the brakes brembo, forks and shock (moc &Sachs), it sounded nice but it was on its second and showing need for a third exhaust during my tenure. Fuel economy was very good but very snatchy at times.
Not all engines are under license, and the few that are are not usually the same as the ecu and software will be different or generic.
 

The lights are led and maintenance free.

its a priority plug and cable fitment with the plug and cable housing for all lights at the rear, both pos and neg….bit like an easy track/race delete system harness.

so yes there is one cable but its all there for you to splice or extend the cable.

wire 14 is what your looking for primarily but look to see if 13 is there aswell.

Agree with all.

it s not guilt but knowing and having responsibilities make you look out for more things that might get you…

agree with training program.

the car makes you lazy and the camera and AI ones are worse for degradation.

Continuing self training for visual references and dangers even if your in the car will keep you sharp.

youll calm down and filter the info subconsciously on the bike.  
for some It might be a thing where you rate conditions in your head, cars on the wrong side of the road/pulling out might be a 8 yet one’s are infront might be a 3 but if the are old or young it’s a 5, 6 if it’s a Peugeot, a bird or a cyclist might be a 2.

There is an augment of If your looking at a single thing for more than say a second and a half while travelling it’s fixation as your not looking far enough or at other objects.

id use your focal point for reading the road ahead (its horizon) while get used to using your peripheral vision to filter less important stuff.

Yes the chain is starting to show signs for replacement soon.

depending on the age, wear and material (steel)to the chain, the sprockets might go again if you was being a mega cheap bast*rd, As sprockets are cheap id would replace as default regardless.

Normal steel ones are good enough.

Well at the moment is there really a need and a rush to do it?

You’ve just paid for a tyre.

Do the studs look like they are going to fail? Is the exhaust going to fail for the next year?

if no then don’t bother just think about it next year And save up for if it based does need more work, if not then great that money will go towards a rear tyre. 
In the meantime between rides you could try to clean the corrosion and soak the studs and protect them yourself from further damage until you really want/have to.

One aspect of their continued rudeness and inconsideration, is if they block the access to the garages which you have right to get too, so any damages in polite manner is on them for not allowing access and space as it is a shared space?

The hornets weren’t the lightest bikes of there type in that era Im sort of getting the idea of the set up but I think your inexperience of not using the bikes advantages, Physics is easily overlooked.

as fliddles sort of touched on:

You can do the dealership spin bike round on a ten pence  with virtually no strength : use the side stand, stand to the left of the seat, lock the steering, gently pull the far bar and the other hand the rear grab rail towards you using your body as to prop or pole to lean against, doesn’t need much just a few inches just so the tyre(s) are less weighted or off the ground abit because they are your contact/friction points,then it will spin on the centre pole (the side stand) when you move around to the left or right.
 

So at first your trying to move a large brick with loads of contact and spreaded out weight which is more difficult to move when it’s layed down much like a bike, if you was to put the brick on its one corner edge you can spin it easily, which will be what you’ll be doing.

the other is why not just use the motor sat on or standing by its side to drive the bike up, then if your worried of it getting away from you you can turn the bike off and leave in gear, just use the clutch to modulate how much the bike moves and any given moment without having to worry about the brake

Which part SD?

i would remember hairy palms and I haven’t seen King Kong. 

Love on how the forks are actually offset from the handle bar, what a beast if they have to totally break from the norm.

Give us help-  What bike, year, service history?

A weak battery first, then possibly reg rectifier.

I’m noting saying it is but it’s not the sole reason to believe so the charger put nothing in but said 12.9 v?
ThT doesn’t mean the battery isn’t goosed, it might say it is but has suffered a stoke and has as much might for the starter motor as a wet fart.

If its a triple they need a good battery, wiring and no corrosion in the wiring or starter and stator struggles.

If the fuse had gone for the electrics directly for say Relay, starter motor etc it wouldn’t even click.

so id go for the first few things, wiring, relay, starter. 

What’s your in seem, back length, total height.

840 at what setting of seat and shock?(its lowest or highest?) and that your seat height, then the passenger will be even higher…smaller and not as comfortable…
if your just passable with the k at its highest setting and your happy with it Id say don’t bother getting the gt.

the front forks are very soft from the factory while the shock is initially firmer but don’t last very long before the oil wear out giving a stark contrast of effect cold to hot.

the paint is very thin and easy for them to furr up and corrosion at the swing arm and sub frame let alone the odd bolt, sump is made of cheese and suffers so can look scruffy, now where near as bad as a Chinese bike but still something to look at.

they are known to wheelie easily so id check the head stock and wheels for its bearings.

being a yam check all the pistons of the calipers are clean and working, ask how often they are clean.

Well thats why everything is a compromise, you can still get shoes or boots yet any or more of the cup of the heel, ankle, metacarcs, quebiod, toes etc might not get as much thought of protection with some.

i can tell you one or more can seriously affect you more than a few weeks.

If you research the positive and negatives and what you feel is right for you, can get what is right without “anyone “preaching. But saying that preaching is just an aspect to be aware of that might have legitimacy.

Nice read but I will only brush over points- typo? 500 was mentioned for some reason?

also how uncomfortable must it be if you had to add a sheep skin to a press/demo bike?

id agree with SD…. If you make it sharp, with styling on the point of edgy you might aswell make its colour somewhat striking or at least different FFS.
Further aspect of styling, Why the exhaust is so round and bulbous yet the body work and lines is so edged? To me that is Honda saying…give us more of your money, buy our accessories exhaust to me.

the tradition of cruisers boys, Don’t hold it in but embrace the gut

22 hours ago, Mawsley said:

We appear to have entered the electric car world. I’ll miss the Jeep, but I’m going to embrace never having to use an indicator again. Vorsprung durr my right of way. 

I chuckled at westys emote.

If you turn off the car lane guidance off, it will ignore you not want to indicating to change lanes….you rogue!

if you’d like more advice let me know

Well just out of thought.

maybe an average quoted? Or

Maybe the mags RR of choice was a little more optimistic , done in a cooler, more dense, closer to sea level environment at the time that in a sweat box of Japan and their or pessimistic of average?

Intention is positive one but different.

bicycle tyres are different from most if not all motorbikes behaviour stand still and moving, there is an engine and it’s engagement that that makes it a different beast to handle not just a few more hand and balance requirements..

clutch biting points and behaviour are different to a car but not mind bending, how you use the engine and its gyroscopic effects are much more pronounced but once you know how they work and effect you can use them rather than get worried or not use them to help.

id just get on with a training school and see how it goes, everyone is different and how they or needs- reflect on what happens and comments afterwards.

Better than nothing….but if I was being amusing or a woman way of thinking the back rest is smaller than the seat…you saying they got a fat arse???