125 Protection?

[Joos118]

What should a 125 Learner Rider have as minimum protection?

Any suggestions too?

[Mightycaz]

Does it matter what size your bike is? any speed over 20 is gonna result in some serious road rash if you come off, anything over 40 is gonna be even worse.....

[Joos118]

I was trying to indicate that I was a newbie/learner, It came out wrong..

So what do I need?

[Joos118]

Anyone know some Textiles which I can get on a tight budget..?

Already managed to bag a budget damn good helmet

[j4ff]

Cheapest option being textiles.Leathers are better abrasive resistant so if funds can allow.

Usually the first thing to hit the ground will be your hands so decent gloves are recomended save you picking grit out your palms for weeks.Ive been hit by a lofted stone off a friends tyre gave me a nasty bruise through my leathers so if one hits your finger you will know about it.

Boots with a good ankle support.If the bike falls on you hopefully they will stop you twisting and breaking your ankle or in my mates case when another biker swiped him he would have had serious problems had he been wearing anything but good boots.

Try to get the best you can afford.Hein Gericke used to offer interest free over the year and their own brand is pretty good.

Only requirement for every rider from a 50cc to a 2.3cc being a helmet which i think is nuts.

[asharin]

Buffalo do a decent range of cheap textiles, my first stuff was made by them, still have them actually I just rarely use them now!

[Guest]

You will get the best deals at the BMF show next weekend.

[Guest]

duchinni do a good 2 piece for £90

[Joos118]

Hey, Just wondering if this 'Waterproof suit' would be sufficient to wear, For protection.

I see the fact that the only thing it offers is 'Waterproofing', And doesn't say anything about protection..

But why would somebody wear it then?!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RST-Waterproof-Suit-/320517675937?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Motorcycle_Clothing&hash=item4aa0579ba1

[asharin]

It's designed to be worn over your other gear

[Guest]

Have merged two of your topics together

Its not necessary to start a new thread for every thought process you have.

[Guest]

100% WATERPROOF PVC COATED NYLON - FULLY LINED SHELL

Now you may not know much about biking and gear, but surely you learnt a bit about materials at school......and realistically how much protection did you expect from pvc coated nylon?

Also, asking why someone would wear a waterproof oversuit..... ive just asked my 13 year old and she laughed and said 'to stop someone from getting wet?'

[Guest]

You will get the best deals at the BMF show next weekend.

 

Ahem ...

[Joos118]

I doubt I can make it to the BMF

[Joos118]

Is there anything wrong buying Textiles/Leathers/Boots/Gloves from eBay - Even if theyr'e 2nd hand?

What should I be aware of if anything?

[chiz]

I've always bought new, although I suppose used is okay as long as they haven't been damaged.

DOES NOT APPLY TO HELMETS.

That's not a dig at you by the way, just advising you to view any used purchases with suspicion.

[asharin]

Nowt wrong with 2nd hand gear mate, just as long as it's not damaged

Helmets obviously do not buy 2nd hand, but rest is fine

Half of my gear is 2nd hand (the leathers) luckily they'd been well cleaned (or hardly used) before I got them, but I have heard of people getting 2nd's that stink!

Unless it's damaged badly any 2nd had gear is just as good as new

[Guest]

when i got my 125 i swapped my textile jacket for a leather one and have just bought some motorbike boots and leather trousers, i also wear kevlar and steel gloves.

as most bikers ive talked to have said, the more protection the better, you might look like a clit wearing full kit on a 125 but youd look like a bigger one with no skin.

i got a nice armoured leather jacket off ebay for £65, brand new

[Joos118]

I found these 'Bargains' (I think..) on eBay,

I'm just struggling to workout the sizing of each because the numbers in the Adverts are so confusing!

Im 17 Years old, About 5ft10, 180lbs or so.. Would either of these be a decent fit for me? I think Im about 34 waist and 40 chest, Approx.

http://

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/bike-leathers-siz ... 414f4a1b22

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/bike-leathers-size-40-50-/280503130383?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Motorcycle_Clothing&hash=item414f4a190f

[Ingah]

Disagree with the idea that leathers are "better" than textiles, especially considering the fact that textiles have advanced a lot as far as protection as the years go by. I don't think the extra bit of abrasion resistance is worth it. The ability that well-fitting leathers have to act as a splint is an noteable advantage though, but i feel that it comes at a cost. If you can only afford one set of gear, i'd say make it a textile set and save the leathers for when and if you can afford them!

For a newbie, i would point to textiles if you'll be using the bike in the rain and/or when it's cold. They'll keep you warm, comfortable and dry (do not underestimate the importance of this), many leathers won't (or simply won't do as good a job).

When i first started riding, i had no knowledge on injuries etc, and was a cautious but money-short individual. I got a helmet, jacket and gloves, and used them religiously. Based on what i've heard of since that time, i always wear full gear with an included foam back protector. So that you can make a more informed choice (like i didn't get the chance to, fortunately not to my detriment) i'm going to copy-paste what i've posted elsewhere previously (OK, i've made minor edits so as to keep it all accurate to this forum, but it's not worth re-reading if you've seen it before!):

"Here's what i've picked up (i.e. i'm not an expert) over my time on these forums, and riding in general - might help people by having it up:

Someone on another forum is in a wheelchair (assumedly for life), because - they were told by the doctor - that they weren't wearing a back protector when they came off at ~30mph.

However, i can remember an experienced member of another forum saying (who was himself summarising what an expert in the field has apparently said) that the hard plate style back protectors often cause severe injury in accidents.

My (personal) solution is to have a CE-approved foam insert in my jacket, because although it may not provide the head-on protection of a full back protector (which i also own), it is A) No extra faff at all over not bothering. and B) Does not suffer from the issue of potentially causing damage, whilst still providing protection.

I have heard (mentioned once, so this could be untrue) that if your head hits something very hard (brick walls and lamp posts come to mind), head-on, at 20mph - you will die regardless of how good your helmet is. Food for thought.

The damage in motorcycle accidents is said to gradually get worse as you go down the body. This would imply that your ankles and feet will take the most (i guess this makes sense as your bike falls onto them and traps them against the road whilst you are still moving along on your side), and that your shoulders will probably be OK if any part of you is. Bear in mind that the hands are reasonably low down on the body when you stand with them by your sides, wear good gloves! (it is instinctive to reach out with your hands when you fall - meaning they often take the first and therefore logically most severe impact).

I'd wear boots for sure, snapped and worn-away-by-the-road ankle bones would cause a disgusting mess.

I've seen nasty pictures at least a couple of times of badly skinned knees (like chicken legs), from 20mph falls.

A thought about kevlar jeans. I use Hood jeans (kevlar) and you can add protectors for your knees. I have done this and would not ride without - i'd like my knee impact spread out please :/

It's not coming off that really causes the damage (if you're wearing gear), it's what you hit after you've come off (and that's something that not even armour helps much with - best you can do is put abrasive resistant materials in between your skin and the road - and impact armour in key areas to spread (not reduce, just spread) the forces at the time of impacts)

Someone else (elsewhere) had an interesting perspective. They said they wear gloves, boots, back protection and a helmet. Because the bones they break can be bolted back together but the spine and nervous system can't.

Leathers (especially important for the legs) act as a splint, holding blood, broken bones etc, in place until medical aid arrives. This can save your life. Kevlar jeans and textile unfortunately don't do this (although i will say, regardless, i wear textiles and kevlar most of the time as being uncomfortable is worse and likely to make me crash through lack of concentration). I think that if the journey is short enough that i'm considering not putting gear on, i should either walk, or push bike it (with a cycle helmet ). A push bike isn't going to crush you against the road like a heavy motorbike can.

Best thing to do, is get lots of training and take it seriously, as gear probably won't save you if you're relying on it to alone."

[BBTBB]

As we *may have* said before: the only way to ensure a goodfit is to try on. As with normal clothing, some manufacturers' cuts will come up different to others. Sorry.

[Guest]

Merged with this topic... a few points for you to consider...

1. Please put info/questions regarding the same topic in the same thread

2. Stop using bike chat for questions regarding clothing... there is a section for this.

3. Surely the best person to ask would be the person selling the gear? You could ask for his measurements then make a decision.

4. You could research.... google the leathers and find a size chart.

Ive no idea if they would fit you or not, one M leathers can be very different in size to another

Vicki

[Joos118]

I've seen lots of IXS and Akito Leathers going cheap on eBay,

2nd Hand Sets of One Piece/Two Piece in good condition going for £50+-....

Whats the deal with them?

[spunky1976]

don't know about ixs but i have akito textiles and they are pretty good.

google them have a look at there sites as has been said have a look at the size charts i'm normally a medium chest for jackets but the akito is a small (40) and fits me fine.

[Joos118]

On a tight budget, Planning to ride in all weathers,

Leathers or Textiles? One Piece or Two?

Which and Why?!