What would be the most effective means of reducing speeding?

[Throttled]

Your votes and opinions please.

[Ash]

I would like to see more education and stops with a friendly warning/advice. I'm sure most police officers would. The trouble is if they get a ticket it's a 'money making scam', if they get pulled over and given words of advice and some educating the police should be 'out catching real criminals'.

[Guest]

IMHO i think speed cameras cause more accidents than they solve as people see them last minute slam on their brakes and you run into the back of them...

[sparkeh9]

Speed cameras and enforcement of speed just make me feel slightly resentful, Whenever I see those little light up signs that show you your speed, I always slow down. I think passive enforcement (like those signs which read your speed back to you) have a better effect on people, well me anyway

[mealexme]

Fixed speed cameras - I know where the local ones are, and i know which ones don't work. I also have an app which tells you where they all are (as well as other things)

Mobile speed cameras - They would be a pain, wouldnt stop me speeding, but more likely to get caught

Adverts showing the consequences of speed in accidents - Better idea, it makes you think about the effect of what your speed has

Police stops and friendly warnings - I believe people would still speed because they think the police wont do anything about it

Instead of fines a days driver education course - again a better idea. Educating rather than fines, but more of an impact than just a cop talking to you on the side of the road

Increased use of speed limiting measures such as humps - there are a few speed bumps that if you do more than 20mph over them, you WILL come off the seat. There are even some that i go under walking speed and still come off the seat. Stupid idea. Plus some you can avoid on bikes, so wouldnt make much difference to bikers and create havoc to low chav-mobiles and sports cars/supercars

The removal of all warning signs and road markings - this would surely make it worse? People would overtake in stupid places etc

So, a combination of adverts and driver ed courses. Maybe combined with friendly police stops

[Ingah]

As bikers are such a low threat to other road users, reducing the speeding of bikers should not be a priority.

I have a very strong belief in autonomy. Let those who know not how to ride/drive safely kill themselves, provided they take none with them.

[Ash]

Police stops and friendly warnings - I believe people would still speed because they think the police wont do anything about it

 

The point is if people actually listened to the advice given to them they might think twice about thier driving habits. People shouldn't have to be prosecuted to learn about safer driving and let the consquences sink in. The trouble is most people are ignorant when it comes to this subject and think they know best. If you are taking advice on your driving from a traffic officer you'd be wise to jump at the oppertunity to learn a thing or two. They are expert's and they do know what they are talking about.

[bex]

Fixed speed cameras - I know where the local ones are, and i know which ones don't work. I also have an app which tells you where they all are (as well as other things)

Adverts showing the consequences of speed in accidents - Better idea, it makes you think about the effect of what your speed has

The removal of all warning signs and road markings - this would surely make it worse? People would overtake in stupid places etc

So, a combination of adverts and driver ed courses. Maybe combined with friendly police stops

 

strange as it sounds, there are a few places that have done this and the driving has been better, remove the centre line and people naturally slow down as it unearve them, if you have nothing to tell you how the road is you have to start to drive/ride properly which naturally slows you down.

[Fozzie]

No points for speeding, just a £60 fine... If they repeat offend constantly then add in points as some rich arse will gladly pay the speeding toll. So caught twice in a week and you can get points.

If dangerous driving is involved then 3 points

No insurance will be a 1 month ban at least and 6 points, same no license holders, missing tax wont get bothered with if its only a month out of date...

But it would mean no more speed cameras as i bet revenue would go up if it was American like with police pulling up and measuring speed.

[OhJay]

I don't think speed cameras are the answer. It needs judgement and real policemen rather than the black and white that speed cameras see the world as.

I used to stick up for speed cameras and I still do for those in accident black spots, if it's dangerous there then makes sense to drive sensibly through it.

But I got caught in a dual carriageway roadworks 40 section by a speed camera. It's 40 to prevent debris being kicked up and hitting the workmen, fair enough, but at 10:00 on a Sunday night there wasn't anyone working. There was no one else on the stretch of dual carriageway with me so my 53 through the roadworks wasn't dangerous but it was above the hard line set in the speed camera so it sent me a ticket. I lost my respect for speed cameras there and then.

I'd say the opposite of Fozz, though. I think points are appropriate, it's a sensible warning system that gives you three opportunities to learn before they take your licence away, where fines are less useful as it leads everyone to accuse speed cameras and coppers of revenue generation.

[Fozzie]

I'd say the opposite of Fozz, though. I think points are appropriate, it's a sensible warning system that gives you three opportunities to learn before they take your licence away, where fines are less useful as it leads everyone to accuse speed cameras and coppers of revenue generation.

 

But my theory supports yours if you think about it, you get caught at 10pm... No workforce so it isnt dangerous so you get a fine. Do it in the day when the work force are present and you get points and a fine.

Im not saying change the system so its revenue based, im just asking for a bit of common sense to determine when you get a fine for speeding and when you get both.

[OhJay]

I'd say the opposite of Fozz, though. I think points are appropriate, it's a sensible warning system that gives you three opportunities to learn before they take your licence away, where fines are less useful as it leads everyone to accuse speed cameras and coppers of revenue generation.

 

But my theory supports yours if you think about it, you get caught at 10pm... No workforce so it isnt dangerous so you get a fine. Do it in the day when the work force are present and you get points and a fine.

Im not saying change the system so its revenue based, im just asking for a bit of common sense to determine when you get a fine for speeding and when you get both.

Ah, I misunderstood what you were saying then. My apologies

[salsarider79]

...a combination of adverts and driver ed courses. Maybe combined with friendly police stops

 

It just makes sense to me. Aggressive policing isn't the way to go, threatening fines and bans, it just annoys me. I would rather be educated in why speed is so dangerous, rather than sticking a camera up to take pics of me...

[Hoover]

they need to re-calculate the speed limits as the current ones were set 40 years ago and modern vehicles have progressed no-end since then, the current limits are all way to LOW and should be at least 10MPH higher.

[Ash]

they need to re-calculate the speed limits as the current ones were set 40 years ago and modern vehicles have progressed no-end since then, the current limits are all way to LOW and should be at least 10MPH higher.

 

That's all well and good, but unfortunetly peoples stupidity and respect for the road seems to have degressed.

[Guest]

they need to re-calculate the speed limits as the current ones were set 40 years ago and modern vehicles have progressed no-end since then, the current limits are all way to LOW and should be at least 10MPH higher.

 

I would also suggest that modern life has dictated that attitudes have changed along with traffic levels. I.e. more people on the roads and in more of a hurry...i would say speed limits are ok.

[bex]

...a combination of adverts and driver ed courses. Maybe combined with friendly police stops

 

It just makes sense to me. Aggressive policing isn't the way to go, threatening fines and bans, it just annoys me. I would rather be educated in why speed is so dangerous, rather than sticking a camera up to take pics of me...

 

dont you, as an adult, and a responsible one at that, already know why speeding is dangerous?

 

they need to re-calculate the speed limits as the current ones were set 40 years ago and modern vehicles have progressed no-end since then, the current limits are all way to LOW and should be at least 10MPH higher.

 

yes they do but unfortunately when they do this, they tend to make them slower, such as the A614 near home, they have dropped it to 50mph. i really can not see them upping the limits anywhere and if they do i would be impressed.

[GazW]

The only way you would stop speeding across the board would be the 'black box' method that some insurance companies offer reduced premiums for. Basically a tracker with g-force meter in it.

The principles of it are questionable. Infringement on human rights maybe? It would work if you crept over 30 and had a letter drop through your letterbox the next week with 3 points and a £60 fine.

[Guest]

The obvious item missing from the poll is 'set speed limits at a level which actually do represent the highest speed at which it is ever safe to travel on that stretch of road'.

[techno]

Anyone that speeds surely has to vote none of the above, which is what I voted.

If the threats of been banned dont stop ya doing it nowt will!

As andyc says would be better if they actually set speed limits properly instead of keeping them low!

And bex please, speed is not dangerous, inappropriate speed is

[oldgreg01]

No points for speeding, just a £60 fine... If they repeat offend constantly then add in points as some rich arse will gladly pay the speeding toll. So caught twice in a week and you can get points.

If dangerous driving is involved then 3 points

No insurance will be a 1 month ban at least and 6 points, same no license holders, missing tax wont get bothered with if its only a month out of date...

But it would mean no more speed cameras as i bet revenue would go up if it was American like with police pulling up and measuring speed.

You think you should ban someone who's not allowed to drive anyways? And put 6 points on a licence they haven't got?

No insurance should be a much bigger punishment. Too many would risk it if that was all they got. A 6 month ban should do it. And prison for a second offence.

I'm all for stopping speeders in the towns and around schools, I stick to the limits here, but out on the main roads there's no way I'm sticking to 60. Or 70 on the motorway.

[uk190]

only rear facing speed cameras would be effective.

why slow down for a revenue generating front facing camera if it cannot see your plate?

proper road markings and shell grip on junctions/nasty bends reduce accidents more than cameras do.

[uk190]

The only way you would stop speeding across the board would be the 'black box' method that some insurance companies offer reduced premiums for. Basically a tracker with g-force meter in it.

The principles of it are questionable. Infringement on human rights maybe? It would work if you crept over 30 and had a letter drop through your letterbox the next week with 3 points and a £60 fine.

 

the MT vehicles we have in the RAF have a system like this fitted.

it measures your lateral g-force and your speed as logged by the GPS against your position on the road. it then reports any speeding or excessive cornering back to the MT section. who then happily bolock you and fine you. its not 100% accurate and despised by all the drivers. but it is blooddy effective though once you know its fitted.

[Guest]

Effective at what, though?

Last year I did a week's advanced training with RoSPA over on the Isle of Man - where, of course, the UK's national speed limit does not apply.

We had a great time, learned a great deal, and somehow managed to return in one piece with no more than a little tyre wear to show for it. Yet we rode at speeds which - had we done so on the mainland - would have seen us all fined, probably banned, and expected to apologise profusely in front of a magistrate for our "dangerous" conduct and promise never to do it again.

I have no problem at all with dangerous driving being against the law and punished accordingly. But driving inappropriately slowly for the conditions just encourages tailgating - which (IMHO) is far more dangerous.

[Guest]

I was ready to vote .. but couldn't see means tested fines anywhere ...