Glorian Posted June 2, 2015 Author Posted June 2, 2015 Had the RAC out to look at it, as it was stuck at my girlfriends house. a.k.a the place of no tools.He looked it over, started it up. fine ...Rode it home and he followed me so its home where i can work on it now. Gotta be something getting wet then drying out causing the issue.. Quote
Glorian Posted June 2, 2015 Author Posted June 2, 2015 http://www.halfords.com/wcsstore/librar ... kplugs.pdfThis was quite handy tbh.. Quote
eastanglianbiker Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 get a hose pipe out and spray certain areas of the bike electrics at a time and see if the fault shows up that way Quote
Glorian Posted June 2, 2015 Author Posted June 2, 2015 Only problem with that is, it usually shows up after riding for about 20-30mins Quote
Stu Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 Spraying water will get it in quicker than riding in the rain I bet you have a dicky plug cap or something! Please remind us of the symptoms Quote
Glorian Posted June 2, 2015 Author Posted June 2, 2015 Riding along normally after i've either washed it or it's gotten wet.Engine will struggle along, twist the throttle you get nothing then it sometimes jumps up. If the choke is turned on it sometimes will stay alive but most often just dies out. It can be started again while warm but will rev high then die after about 10-20 seconds.About a day later (varies) the engine will start up fine and have no issues.Current plans are to swop the air filter with a better quality one, check for any electrical damage or open wiring, change the spark plugs and make sure there is nothing inside that shouldn't be. Quote
Stu Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 and does it sound like it drops a cylinder or two? so it sounds like a twin?its electrical and water related I will put money on it been around the plugs the caps won't be sealing 100% and letting water in which earths it to the engine causing a misfire Quote
Tango Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 Are there drain holes near the bottom of where the plugs sit?.......could be blocked, so any water that gets in can't drain away, which shorts the ht out...... Quote
Glorian Posted June 3, 2015 Author Posted June 3, 2015 Going to swop the plugs out on saturday for some nice new iridium ones and make sure caps are securely on.. Will have a look inside and give it a good ol' clean and check for any blockages, I was just gonna use a rag to clean any gunk and water out unless there is a cleaner i can use? Quote
eastanglianbiker Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 check the drain holes before removing plugs otherwise crap can wash down into bore of the engine if there is anything down there Quote
Glorian Posted June 3, 2015 Author Posted June 3, 2015 check the drain holes before removing plugs otherwise crap can wash down into bore of the engine if there is anything down there Gonna have to have a little look around, not 100% sure what you mean but i reckon i will know it when i see it Also haynes manual! Quote
skiffer Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 This happened to me literally a couple of weeks ago in a downpour.. never happened before and it's been wetter. Just bad luck and water had gotten in somewhere. Someone suggested carbs as they are so exposed. But it's fine now it's dried out. Quote
Glorian Posted June 4, 2015 Author Posted June 4, 2015 In regards to spark plug changing, aparently the bandit the spark plugs need to be tightened no more than 11nm. I think my dad has a torque wrench but it might not go that low as it's for his caravans wheels..If i don't have a torque wrench shall i just make them tight enough and then take to a garage to check for me? I can't really afford a torque wrench as most (reasonable ones) i've seen are £50+ Quote
RantMachine Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 The Halfords 8-60nm one is £40 with the trade card, and does of course have a lifetime guarantee. Quote
Glorian Posted June 4, 2015 Author Posted June 4, 2015 The Halfords 8-60nm one is £40 with the trade card, and does of course have a lifetime guarantee. It's a good call, still a fair bit of dosh at the moment with all my car stuff and the parts for the bike i'm down to like £100 for 3 weeks Quote
Stu Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 Forget the torque wrench Use the socket with an extension and tighten by hand the stick the ratchet on and just nip them up Quote
RicKsTa Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 Never needed a torque wrench in all my years working on stuff.. Just use common sense when nipping it Quote
Glorian Posted June 5, 2015 Author Posted June 5, 2015 Fair enough then! What's the worst that could happen *sips dr pepper* Quote
Grumpy Old Git Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 You use a breaker bar 'by accident' and strip the threads in the cylinder head. Think that's about the worst! Quote
RantMachine Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 Fair enough then! What's the worst that could happen *sips dr pepper* You successfully change all the plugs, then wake up the next morning and suddenly realise that you own a Bandit Quote
Glorian Posted June 5, 2015 Author Posted June 5, 2015 Fair enough then! What's the worst that could happen *sips dr pepper* You successfully change all the plugs, then wake up the next morning and suddenly realise that you own a Bandit Once i get my bike working im coming to cambridge and sitting outside your house revving the engine at 3am!! (it might even wake you up) Quote
RantMachine Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 If you overdo it and something falls off you'll be able to borrow a torque wrench from me Quote
Glorian Posted June 5, 2015 Author Posted June 5, 2015 Walked into that... walked because the bike isnt working Quote
Glorian Posted June 6, 2015 Author Posted June 6, 2015 RIGHT!Air filter changed,Spark plugs tried to change, realised i forgot to take the cap off, had to take all 4 out and put them back in (only put one in upside down.. and spent 20minutes trying to get it out) in hindsight i wish i took the fairing off >.>. Now the engine seems to be misfiring when i rev hard, Im thinking i need to adjust the gap at the bottom of the plug a bit more as it is supposed to be 6-7 it's probably at 7 (checked with a feeler gauge but what else could it be?) also think i may spray some WD40 in there just to make sure theres no water or crud in there.As for torque wrench i gave up i just tightened by hand and nipped with a normal wrench. Quote
Stu Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 that gap should be fine I would be looking at taking the plug caps off the HT lead and trimming them back half an inch on each one so you have a really good contact they just screw off the wire Quote
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