mmalik Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 Thank you all for your suggestions. I shall try and look at them asap. Where would I find the starter relay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmalik Posted June 2, 2015 Author Share Posted June 2, 2015 Hi All,Here is an update:Ordered, charged and installed a new battery this morning before work. Bike fired up and it was great BUT I decided to check if it was charging, stuck a multi meter across the terminals as the bike was running at 3000 revs and there was no charge, it was steady at 11.99v, surely that does not sound right, should it not be around 13v??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fq-craigus Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Stator is bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastanglianbiker Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 not always the stator could be the reg/rec gone down as well i would go with that first and pull the wiring plug apart to check if the connections have burnt out which is often the case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fq-craigus Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 not always the stator could be the reg/rec gone down as well i would go with that first and pull the wiring plug apart to check if the connections have burnt out which is often the caseif the reg rec was faulty when he checked he would have been getting around 15-16v as the voltage would have been rectified, problem sounds like the stator isnt charging the battery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastanglianbiker Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 not always the stator could be the reg/rec gone down as well i would go with that first and pull the wiring plug apart to check if the connections have burnt out which is often the caseif the reg rec was faulty when he checked he would have been getting around 15-16v as the voltage would have been rectified, problem sounds like the stator isnt charging the batteryonly if it is allowing a charge through it which bad/burnt plug connections wont Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 when a reg/rec goes it can stop power going through as well as putting too much power through an easy check it to test the AC at the wires to the reg/rec from the stator you should see around 70 volts on each of the 3 wires Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmalik Posted June 3, 2015 Author Share Posted June 3, 2015 Ok here goes, if I used the multi meter correctly then I got the following results:Stator wires: I got approx. 60v from each of the wires.R/R wires: I got a range from 0.350 to 0.360 and then when I crossed the multi meter probes over I got no reading.Not 100% sure that I am doing it correctly but watched a couple of youtube videos and copied them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Your reg/rec is shot If you have 60v at the stator wires that is working fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmalik Posted June 3, 2015 Author Share Posted June 3, 2015 Your reg/rec is shot If you have 60v at the stator wires that is working fine I thought it may be. I shall double check again just to ease my mind.Further advice please, you all have been extremely helpful.What would you recommend, a used genuine r/r or a new pattern part. Both are being sold on an auction site? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastanglianbiker Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 some have gone for very cheap chinese pattern parts and regretted it some have had success with them havent looked on the auction site but this place is normally very good but not cheap http://www.electrexworld.co.uk/acatalog/RR55.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmalik Posted June 3, 2015 Author Share Posted June 3, 2015 Can I ask a very stupid question. If the r/r is showing readings where it is supposed to as per videos, not as high readings though but reading all the same. Then how can the r/r be faulty. Am not second guessing anyone, just would like a better understanding.Checked the stator again and definitely getting 60v @ 5000 and 70v @ around 5500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastanglianbiker Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 if at the battery you are only getting 12 volts still with engine running at about 3000rpm then the regulator has failed or the wires inside the plug have burned out which is fairly common Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 the reg/rec is electrical ......electrics are a law upon themselves if the readings aren't right its screwed I must say though where are you taking the readings? from the pins on the reg/rec or from the back of the multiplug where the wires go in? check the wiring to make sure its not a wiring fault first if all looks good then get a reg/rec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmalik Posted June 3, 2015 Author Share Posted June 3, 2015 the reg/rec is electrical ......electrics are a law turnstiles if the readings right its screwed :: I must say though where are you taking the readings? from the pins on the reg/rec or from the back of the multiplug where the wires go in? check the wiring to make sure its not a wiring fault first if all looks good then get a reg/rec Am getting the readings from the front of the plug, on the pins themselves. Have checked cables in that location and none look burnt out or melted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmalik Posted June 3, 2015 Author Share Posted June 3, 2015 if at the battery are only getting 12 volts still with engine running at about 3000rpm then the regulator has failed or the wires inside the plug have burned out which is fairly common Yes, only getting approximately 12v no matter what revs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 it most definitely points to your reg/rec been shot I would be replacing it if it was me my gsxr600 did the same when I had that some 9 years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmalik Posted June 3, 2015 Author Share Posted June 3, 2015 it most definitely points to your reg/rec been shot I would be replacing it if it was me my gsxr600 did the same when I had that some 9 years ago Will be ordering one first thing in the morning. Will keep this post updated and thank you all for your help and advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmalik Posted June 5, 2015 Author Share Posted June 5, 2015 New r/r had been installed, seems to start a lot better. Put meter on and it seems to be charging at idle at around 12.90v - 12.95v, when I Rev to 5000 it drops 11.65v. Is that how it should be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 No! the volts should be increasing not decreasing!! check the voltage coming out of the reg/rec again at idle and high revs! make sure all connections are good too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmalik Posted June 5, 2015 Author Share Posted June 5, 2015 No! the volts should be increasing not decreasing!! check the voltage coming out of the reg/rec again at idle and high revs! make sure all connections are good too! Engine off: 0.750 approx. Engine idle: 0.795 approx creeping up to 0.810+Engine @ 3500: 0.999+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 that can't be right for a new reg/rec!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmalik Posted June 5, 2015 Author Share Posted June 5, 2015 that can't be right for a new reg/rec!! My old one was reading half that. Region of 0.326 or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 something is not right! you have got the multimeter set to DC volts right? if you have 60v at all three wires at the input then with a new reg/rec you should see 14v or thereabouts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmalik Posted June 5, 2015 Author Share Posted June 5, 2015 something is not right! you have my got the multimeter set to DC volts right? if you have 60v at all three wires at the input then with a new reg/rec you see 14v or thereabouts I check again in the morning. Will borrow my brothers meter as I am not 100% about mine. Brand new fully charged battery only reading 12.26v. Connected to bike shows only 11.96v but bike starts first time no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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