cockercas Posted February 26, 2016 Posted February 26, 2016 If you take your car/van/bike for its mot the month before it expires and it fails dose that mean your old mot date has expired and you cant drive it untill its passed another? Mot runs out on the 17th march.Cadwell booked for the 14th so i dont want to take it early and it fail. Quote
Valko Posted February 26, 2016 Posted February 26, 2016 It depends. If the bike/car is roadworthy you can use the remains of your old MOT certificate.https://www.gov.uk/getting-an-mot/after-the-test Failing the MOTIf your vehicle fails the MOT: you’ll get a ‘refusal of an MOT test certificate’ from the test centre it will be recorded in the MOT databaseYou can appeal the result if you think it’s wrong.Driving a vehicle that’s failedYou can take your vehicle away if your MOT certificate is still valid.If your MOT has run out you can take your vehicle to: have the failed defects fixed a pre-arranged MOT test appointmentIn both cases, your vehicle still needs to meet the minimum standards of roadworthiness at all times or you can be fined. Quote
cockercas Posted February 26, 2016 Author Posted February 26, 2016 But if its failed a mot its no longer road worthy. Quote
rennie Posted February 26, 2016 Posted February 26, 2016 well you've answered your own question then! Quote
TC1474 Posted February 26, 2016 Posted February 26, 2016 If it passes you can get issued with what is called a 13 month MOT and the month owing gets added on. You cannot do more than 1 month in advance.If it fails, your current MOT remains valid until its natural expirt date, however depending on what it fails on, you can still be reported for using a bike that is defective or for failing to maintain with the ultimate option of dangerous condition if things are that bad just the same as if you get stopped at any other time.Remember that the MOT is only proof that it was road worthy at the time of the MOT test Quote
Stu Posted February 26, 2016 Posted February 26, 2016 Remember that the MOT is only proof that it was road worthy at the time of the MOT test and likewise if it fails it only means it was un roadworthy at the time of the MOT Quote
Valko Posted February 27, 2016 Posted February 27, 2016 But if its failed a mot its no longer road worthy. MOT has nothing to do with road worthiness of bike/car. You can pass MOT and the bike still may be not roadworthy. For example front sprocket. You pass MOT, but the front sprocket is in sorry state never serviced say for 100 000 miles. Your chain brakes because of that. You kill many kittens. The technical expertise finds that out. You are responsible that during the crash the bike was not roadworthy, because of lack of routine maintainance and regular servicing. Your bike was not road worthy during the crash. Your insurance is invalid too. The fact you have MOT means nothing for roadworthiness.And vice versa. You may fail MOT but the bike can be roadworthy if you fix the failed part 5 minutes later.For example broken headlights relay. You do the MOT 1 month in advance. You fail. You go home and change the relay. The bike is roadworthy. And you still have valid old MOT certificate to ride for 1 month.The law requires:1. To have valid MOT - you have valid old MOT.2. To be roadworthy - this always depends and its responsibility of the rider/driver.Hope its clear now Quote
TC1474 Posted February 27, 2016 Posted February 27, 2016 You are responsible that during the crash the bike was not roadworthy, because of lack of routine maintainance and regular servicing. Your bike was not road worthy during the crash. Your insurance is invalid too. The fact you have MOT means nothing for roadworthiness. In respect of a crash, your comment is a common myth. Unless there is a clause in your policy, it does not invalidate your policy, it has to be proved that the condition of the bike was such that it contributed to the cause of the crash.If the cause of the crash and subsequent injuries sustained was down to someone else's negligence, it would not matter anyway as you are only claiming off the third party and you do not need to notify your insurers anyway, and even then, if the vehicle had certain faults that may be deemed as having contributed to the cause of the crash, then a degree of contributory negligence may be attributed (like not wearing a crash helmet which attracts up to a 25% reduction in compensation for contrib) but it is unlikely depending on the evidence and the circumstances.It is for the defence to prove that the defects contributed to the cause not for the claimant, and unless an allegation is made at the time, which would result in the vehicle having a detailed examination, or after a fatal crash where a full examination is done anyway, the defence are going to have great difficulty in proving any defect caused the crash at the time. Quote
cockercas Posted February 27, 2016 Author Posted February 27, 2016 But if its failed a mot its no longer road worthy. MOT has nothing to do with road worthiness of bike/car. You can pass MOT and the bike still may be not roadworthy. For example front sprocket. You pass MOT, but the front sprocket is in sorry state never serviced say for 100 000 miles. Your chain brakes because of that. You kill many kittens. The technical expertise finds that out. You are responsible that during the crash the bike was not roadworthy, because of lack of routine maintainance and regular servicing. Your bike was not road worthy during the crash. Your insurance is invalid too. The fact you have MOT means nothing for roadworthiness.And vice versa. You may fail MOT but the bike can be roadworthy if you fix the failed part 5 minutes later.For example broken headlights relay. You do the MOT 1 month in advance. You fail. You go home and change the relay. The bike is roadworthy. And you still have valid old MOT certificate to ride for 1 month.The law requires:1. To have valid MOT - you have valid old MOT.2. To be roadworthy - this always depends and its responsibility of the rider/driver.Hope its clear now It is.Thank you. Quote
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