Muddi Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 ok with the risk of sounding really girly here - how the hell do you get off a nut thats sooooo tight i cant even move it a tiny bit!!??Im trying to change my oil but the nut is just soooo tight - yes im trying to turn it the right way! to the left or anti clockwise - err that is right aint it lol.Its the first oil change so its not rusted up or anything like that but I just cant move it! please dont say air tools as i dont have any!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 ive had similare issues before, what i did was i whent out and got a breaker bar and then used that to get the nut off, but also remember wonders of wd40, if you use that, then liberally spray it, i mean literrally spray it untill it drips a good amount, then once you have it off, spray the nut itself,that should help keep it from doing the same in the future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberwolf Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 try using a longer spanner or if you using a rachet slot a pipe over the handle to give you more leaverage but watch you dont snap the bolt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddi Posted May 29, 2007 Author Share Posted May 29, 2007 cheers guys will try the lovely wd40, never thought of that - tho i usually use it on rusted nuts, and was thinkin about a bar breaker or similar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 also rememeber that wd40 works very well in cleaning electrical connections, and as a general bike cleaner, and its great at getting road c**p off of white alloy bike wheels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissb6 Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 Hi the sump plug is normally is not that tight. be sure you have the right bolt and the right tools for the job. make sure to have the right size socket plus a power bar, best done with a warm engine, it should come loose easy with this. On completion remember to fit a new copper or alloy washer and tighten up to the correct torque setting for the bolt. If this is the first time you have done this then a torque wrench is a must. Too tight and you'll crush the washer and maybe strip a thread, to loose well, we don't want to even go there!! Hope you manage to sort it, fair play for having a go. If you need any more help get intouch.regards chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 Watch your knuckels when you try and shift it ... its dead easy to wack your hands on the deck if the socket comes off suddenly .... (gloves might be an idea)If you haven't already got one, a Haynes manual will give you the torque settings Chris was on about ...And, check wot setting you need before rushing out to but a torque wrench.In an ideal world, buy two - to give yourself a broad range of settings ..The short stumpy ones tend to be best for "fragile"ish stuff ..And the longer ones for when you can apply more oomph ...Lots of stuff on bikes are made out of alloy ... So the torque settings tend to be low'ish...Last tip - get some of the disposable plasticy glove thingies ... forget proper name .... You invariably end up getting oil on your hands doing an oil change ... and apart from the mess, its sposed to be carcenogenic (sp).. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddi Posted May 29, 2007 Author Share Posted May 29, 2007 I do need a torque wrench as I aint got one! My fella had all the tools etc but I dont have any - as used his lolJust been trying to use a spanner and the crappy socket thing that came with the bike! NEED proper tools! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nigelf Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 if you still aint done it by tomorrow...(wed) pop up in the morning use the tools here...Nigel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddi Posted May 29, 2007 Author Share Posted May 29, 2007 Got some of those surgeons gloves Ed lolUsed to have access to all the proper tools but my my ex is still away, so cant get to any! Cheers Nigel - might just have to take you up on that offer!! Where abouts are you?Oh and whats the best oil to use? Have got a couple of new tubs of various types of engine oil knocking about the garage , wanna make sure put the right stuff in lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nigelf Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 Ive sent a PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 ok with the risk of sounding really girly here - how the hell do you get off a nut thats sooooo tight i cant even move it a tiny bit!!??Im trying to change my oil but the nut is just soooo tight - yes im trying to turn it the right way! to the left or anti clockwise - err that is right aint it lol.Its the first oil change so its not rusted up or anything like that but I just cant move it! please dont say air tools as i dont have any!! Is that a left handed thread chinese nut ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Oh and whats the best oil to use? Have got a couple of new tubs of various types of engine oil knocking about the garage , wanna make sure put the right stuff in lol the oil type various from bike to bike, generally speaking most bikes take 10w40, what bike is this oil for, and i might be able to find out for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddi Posted May 30, 2007 Author Share Posted May 30, 2007 (edited) Ta hunniits a sanya 125 - 11 yeah a chinese jobbie! friggen socket thing that came with the 'tool roll' is fecking useless - its that crappy soft metal stuff - went to see mummy n step daddy and borrowed a 16mm socket and a bar - had to stuff it up my coat as on the bike lol - got wet coming home as its now raining - got bike into garage onto centre stand and the friggen socket is 1mm to small!!! bollox!!Cant be bothered going back out in this rain now! will have to do it later lol Edited May 30, 2007 by Muddi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 hehehehe, i know exactly how you feel on that one, ive only got to fit one bolt, but as its raining i cant be bothered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest markchris Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Ta hunniits a sanya 125 - 11 yeah a chinese jobbie! friggen socket thing that came with the 'tool roll' is fecking useless - its that crappy soft metal stuff - went to see mummy n step daddy and borrowed a 16mm socket and a bar - had to stuff it up my coat as on the bike lol - got wet coming home as its now raining - got bike into garage onto centre stand and the friggen socket is 1mm to small!!! bollox!!Cant be bothered going back out in this rain now! will have to do it later lol If its Chinese, can't you send out for one? Ok sorry, in a daft mood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nigelf Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Well I waited even moved bikes about so you could do the oil in the garage.....Nevermind it will get done.Nigel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Well I waited even moved bikes about so you could do the oil in the garage.....Nevermind it will get done.Nigel I did a oil change over a drain on the road once just incase I spilt any Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberwolf Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 I did a oil change over a drain on the road once just incase I spilt any em thats a £5000 fine plus costs you shoud know better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nigelf Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Well I waited even moved bikes about so you could do the oil in the garage.....Nevermind it will get done.Nigel I did a oil change over a drain on the road once just incase I spilt any Dont tell fibs... you have a hard enough time finding where the ignition key fits.Nigel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberwolf Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Well I waited even moved bikes about so you could do the oil in the garage.....Nevermind it will get done.Nigel I did a oil change over a drain on the road once just incase I spilt any Dont tell fibs... you have a hard enough time finding where the ignition key fits.Nigel Well it was when I was 18 and into bikes and how they worked etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddi Posted May 31, 2007 Author Share Posted May 31, 2007 Woohoo Ive done it..!!Nothing the right sized spanner and a can of WD40 couldn't sort out! Nice new oil is now in my bike! Cheers for the offer Nigel of using your tools etc anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 Woohoo Ive done it..!!Nothing the right sized spanner and a can of WD40 couldn't sort out! Nice new oil is now in my bike! Cheers for the offer Nigel of using your tools etc anyway! How many miles you done mudds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddi Posted May 31, 2007 Author Share Posted May 31, 2007 just 400 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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