secretagentmole Posted November 8, 2016 Posted November 8, 2016 Changed the seals on the front caliper and I could not get the damned system to prime after I had bolted it all back together! Tried tying the brake handle to the handlebar, no joy, tried half pulls, no joy. Screwfix sell a plastic 1 litre syringe which comes with a length of clear hose, supposedly for draining the oil out of things with no drain hole, like some old lawnmowers. This hose fits neatly over a bleed nipple after warming in hot water, hose on, crack open nipple, pull on syringe, pulls brake fluid through system. Cost? £9.99 inc VAT Quote
Stu Posted November 8, 2016 Posted November 8, 2016 there was probably air trapped in the master cylinder common problem cracking the banjo bolts can free it and get you going pulling and holding the lever does nothing despite what others say Quote
cockercas Posted November 8, 2016 Posted November 8, 2016 Crack banjo bolts or bleed nipple if the mc has one.If you have a res on a tube then fill it and start squeezing the tube and it will fill the mc. Quote
secretagentmole Posted November 8, 2016 Author Posted November 8, 2016 Banjo bolts were cracked open and washers replaced, it just would not charge the master cylinder. That syringe just pulled it through nicely! Quote
Stu Posted November 8, 2016 Posted November 8, 2016 Banjo bolts were cracked open and washers replaced, it just would not charge the master cylinder. That syringe just pulled it through nicely! I mean pump the lever up and crack the bolts or crack the bolt on the M/C and pump lever till you get some fluid there Quote
secretagentmole Posted November 9, 2016 Author Posted November 9, 2016 Banjo bolts were cracked open and washers replaced, it just would not charge the master cylinder. That syringe just pulled it through nicely! I mean pump the lever up and crack the bolts or crack the bolt on the M/C and pump lever till you get some fluid there I did, I cracked the bleed nipple open, no joy, lower banjo, no joy, so got this syringe for under a tenner and sucked the air through. Worked like a charm! Quote
Stu Posted November 9, 2016 Posted November 9, 2016 Did you crack the banjo at the master cylinder? Quote
cockercas Posted November 9, 2016 Posted November 9, 2016 Ive never understood why people struggle to bleed brakes.Its one of the easiest jobs to do. Quote
Stu Posted November 9, 2016 Posted November 9, 2016 Ive never understood why people struggle to bleed brakes.Its one of the easiest jobs to do. actually it really does depend on the calipers and set up in question! I have had some systems bleed up perfect straight away But I have had more systems point blank refuse to work! or air getting trapped somewhere especially in the older tokico calipers! now they was a bad design Quote
Mr Fro Posted November 9, 2016 Posted November 9, 2016 especially in the older tokico calipers! now they was a bad designWhat is it they say about workmen and tools? Tokicos are fine so long as you don't mind unbolting them and jiggling them about mid-bleed.Reverse bleeding with a syringe is my current favorite way of doing brakes. Why bother trying to force trapped air upwards when it's much easier to push it upwards? Quote
Stu Posted November 9, 2016 Posted November 9, 2016 Only one tool needed in bleeding brakes and that's a spanner for the nipple!Nothing wrong with my spanners Quote
Mr Fro Posted November 9, 2016 Posted November 9, 2016 Two tools needed in bleeding brakes - one's a spanner, the others got nipples!Fixed. Quote
ThePhatomfart Posted November 9, 2016 Posted November 9, 2016 Only one tool needed in bleeding brakes and that's a spanner for the nipple! Dont think that's fair calling me a tool Quote
cockercas Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 Ive never understood why people struggle to bleed brakes.Its one of the easiest jobs to do. actually it really does depend on the calipers and set up in question! I have had some systems bleed up perfect straight away But I have had more systems point blank refuse to work! or air getting trapped somewhere especially in the older tokico calipers! now they was a bad design Ducati clutch is the worst ive done.And i did that so many times, thats probaly why im so good at it, and the fact i change my fluid every two days. Quote
Stu Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 Yeah it gets easier with practice You will just bleed the new fluid through though won't you? different story starting with a dry system Quote
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