Via Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 And there you go , the Gixer forum or rather someone on it says smallest outwards but based on the TL pics its the opposite way round. I would rather trust a manual than just someone! but on the other hand the manual is from the TL although it looks as though its the same design I can't see why it would be different on the bikes Looking at manual pic makes it bit clearer and would say design acts like a small spring in which case that way round makes perfect sense, the other way would only make sense if it was for centering in which case whatever sits on it next would have a similar taper to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 I'm pretty sure the design is the same as the TL1000s this is what the TL manual shows if it helps at all clutch.png If only my manual were as clear ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Looks flat in your manual must be deformed hammer new one flat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I'm pretty sure the design is the same as the TL1000s this is what the TL manual shows if it helps at all clutch.png If only my manual were as clear ! is that a factory manual? or haynes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 If I go with the TL drawing then I take back my earlier comment that the garage got it wrong . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 I'm pretty sure the design is the same as the TL1000s this is what the TL manual shows if it helps at all clutch.png If only my manual were as clear ! is that a factory manual? or haynesFactory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 You would think the factory manual would give you the most info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 I'm pretty sure the design is the same as the TL1000s this is what the TL manual shows if it helps at all clutch.png So what's on page 3-52 ? Just out of interest . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I'm pretty sure the design is the same as the TL1000s this is what the TL manual shows if it helps at all clutch.png So what's on page 3-52 ? Just out of interest . I would love to tell you but I don't have page numbers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Ah figured it out I think its bedtime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 I feel that I'm getting closer to the truth , this is from the Hayabusa forum . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRH Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Just to confuse even more, the GSF1250 wave washer is the other way round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 Just to confuse even more, the GSF1250 wave washer is the other way round Thanks for that ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 have you tried phoning dealer and asking? They should have access to far more detailed diagrams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 have you tried phoning dealer and asking? They should have access to far more detailed diagrams. Good idea , might try Robinsons . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRH Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Just to confuse even more, the GSF1250 wave washer is the other way round Thanks for that ! Your welcome. You would think that the washers are all installed the same way though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 Just to confuse even more, the GSF1250 wave washer is the other way round Thanks for that ! Your welcome. You would think that the washers are all installed the same way though. On one Suzuki forum a mechanic stated that he had changed 100+ clutches on the same model bike and even the factory didn't know which way up this wretched thing is supposed to go ! I'm going to go with the 'Busa / TL method but I'm going to have a look at some Haynes manuals in the library at lunchtime. The problem with my bike is that it was only made for one year . The WR is a a different bike right down to the frame although from a distance they look the same . Therefore there is no non factory manual for it . I've only got a paper manual for the L M and N oil cooled models which apart from a water jacket are the same bike more or less. The wear marks I found suggest that the 'Busa / TL method is correct and that my conclusion that the garage made a mistake was in fact wrong . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 Just to confuse even more, the GSF1250 wave washer is the other way round Thanks for that ! Actually its the same way round but the " seat" sits on top of it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRH Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Just to confuse even more, the GSF1250 wave washer is the other way round Thanks for that ! Actually its the same way round but the " seat" sits on top of it . My bad looked at the wrong wavy / bevelled washer.take 2. it is the same as the TL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 I think a consensus is forming here . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 I think a consensus is forming here . OK , been down the library and looked a some Haynes manual ( 'Busa, TL, GSF 12&6, GSF1250 &650,GSX1400R GSXR 600 etc etc ) and they ALL agree its small diameter INWARDS . So that's what I'm going to do . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 A big thank you to everyone who contributed to this little saga . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 Oh shit ! Where does this bit go ..............only joking ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikestrivens Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 I've got a tool box full of these sorts of bits. Never found out where they went. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 It's amazing amount of bits they fit that aren't needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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