Starting issue.....

[Aland]

Hi all, a quick question, my YBR 125, 2014, had a starter motor replacement a few days ago and now the bike will only start via the kick start, not the electric ignition as before. Do I need to upgrade my battery? Thanks in advance 

[Simon Davey]

19 minutes ago, Aland said:

Hi all, a quick question, my YBR 125, 2014, had a starter motor replacement a few days ago and now the bike will only start via the kick start, not the electric ignition as before. Do I need to upgrade my battery? Thanks in advance 

 

You might need to replace the battery if it's knackered.

Just make sure it's charged before you do anything hasty, also, if you use the kick start to get it going, can you put a multi-meter on the battery to make sure the bike is charging whilst running.

Either way, the same type of battery should do the job.

As it happens, have you tried jump starting with a spare battery or car battery?

Edited December 13, 2024 by Simon Davey

[Aland]

I haven't tried jump starting it, as it starts with the Kickstarter, my issue is the electric start button won't start the engine 

[Simon Davey]

53 minutes ago, Aland said:

I haven't tried jump starting it, as it starts with the Kickstarter, my issue is the electric start button won't start the engine 

 

Yes, you mentioned upgrading the battery, so thought you should check that it's charged and capable of starting the engine before moving on to further diagnosis. 

First basics would be to follow the cable/s from the starter motor, and check any fuses, especially if it was changed with the battery connected. 

[Aland]

I haven't tried jump starting it, as it starts with the Kickstarter, my issue is the electric start button won't start the engine 

[Aland]

I checked the fuse, it's good. I also tested the battery with a 12v light bulb tester. It lights the bulb, but I don't have a multimeter or a battery charger. I was thinking that perhaps the ignition switch is bad? 

[Simon Davey]

A flat battery will still light a bulb, and it will also light up the dashboard. 

 

Do you get all the lights on the dash? 

 

Hang on, is the "run" switch in the run position? (red switch at your right thumb) 

[RideWithStyles]

Back to square one…was it fine before you changed the battery? If so is the wiring comprised or have you blown a fuse? Check them and come back to us. 

[bud]

You might really need a multimeter to trouble shoot this problem.  A cheap one will be good enough to give you an idea of what's going on.

Screw fix do one for a tenner. https://www.screwfix.com/p/lap-dc-digital-multimeter-600v/793rt

[Aland]

I don't have a run switch, only a red button to depress to start the bike which was working prior to changing the starter motor. I have not changed the battery. The neutral light comes on as does the engine light when the key is inserted, but then the engine light goes off, which is normal. It just won't start using the red starter switch 

[Aland]

It's the switch next to the A in the foto

[Simon Davey]

Wow, I always thought a kill switch was mandatory. 

If you lift the seat off, can you hear a relay click when you press the starter button? 

Also, when you replaced the starter, did you definitely get the cables in the right place. 

Is there a switch on the side stand? 

[Aland]

It's the switch next to the A in the foto

[Aland]

I will check the relay tomorrow under the seat. And I will check he switch next to the side stand to see if it's not stuck

[onesea]

On 13/12/2024 at 16:54, Aland said:

Hi all, a quick question, my YBR 125, 2014, had a starter motor replacement a few days ago and now the bike will only start via the kick start, not the electric ignition as before. Do I need to upgrade my battery? Thanks in advance 

Why was starter changed? 

Was work done by garage?

 

I would be back to who ever changed it, or checking my own workmanship to see what I got wrong? 

 

Has the new starter failed?

[Aland]

I will check the relay tomorrow under the seat. And I will check he switch next to the side stand to see if it's not stuck

[Aland]

No starter is good

[bud]

Did you run a live directly to the starter then?

[Aland]

Im nit sure about the connection. It has one cable connected to the starter motor only. The relay is fine asnid the side stand switch 

[Simon Davey]

13 minutes ago, Aland said:

Im nit sure about the connection. It has one cable connected to the starter motor only. The relay is fine asnid the side stand switch 

 

It only needs one cable. 

Do you have any jump leads? 

You could momentarily connect a jump lead from the battery to the cable connection on the starter motor, it should turn over, even without the ignition on. 

That's what @bud is suggesting above. 

[Aland]

My issue is-, the bike will not start using the ignition switch, next to the throttle , but it will start using the Kickstarter 

[Simon Davey]

38 minutes ago, Aland said:

My issue is-, the bike will not start using the ignition switch, next to the throttle , but it will start using the Kickstarter 

 

So, by connecting the starter directly to the battery, you can ascertain whether the starter is actually working.

[Aland]

How do I do that? What equipment do I need? 

[Simon Davey]

1 hour ago, Aland said:

How do I do that? What equipment do I need? 

 

A decent cable, something simple like a jump lead.