stevie16v Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 bike was in for a wee checkover yesterday and carb balance, Now running awesome, Much smoother and more responsive. However, the mechanic told me that there is slight play in the front right caliper, He showed me it aswell. Apparently its normal through wear and tear and the stage it is at is fine, Just to keep an eye on it. Stupidly i didnt ask him how to sort it, So anyone able to shed any light? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kja.busa Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 In the caliper? or the disc (rotor)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie16v Posted May 27, 2009 Author Share Posted May 27, 2009 It appears to be the actual caliper itself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kja.busa Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Is this like your brake caliper?http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd76/kjandrosie/20.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie16v Posted May 27, 2009 Author Share Posted May 27, 2009 yeah. looks pretty much like that. havent stripped it down or anything yet tho so can't be 100%. But looking at the outside i'd say yeah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kja.busa Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Its bolted correctly to the fork leg? If so the only other movement could be the sliding part of the caliper, which is what its supposed to do tbh. the pins are usually greased so they slide freely and shouldn't wear, the pads are secured with into the caliper body(item 11/12), so without seeing it I 'm not sure what other movement there could be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie16v Posted May 27, 2009 Author Share Posted May 27, 2009 Theyre def bolted on properly and correctly torqued up. It only does it on one side aswell. I didnt notice it, it was the mechanic in the shop. Just checked the sheet. It says front right brake disc has play on the spools? So maybe ive been a bit off the mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kja.busa Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 (edited) Theyre def bolted on properly and correctly torqued up. It only does it on one side aswell. I didnt notice it, it was the mechanic in the shop. Just checked the sheet. It says front right brake disc has play on the spools? So maybe ive been a bit off the mark Erm, thats the disc, not the caliper!!!http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd76/kjandrosie/groan-1.gif Edited May 27, 2009 by kja.busa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie16v Posted May 27, 2009 Author Share Posted May 27, 2009 yeah, my mistake lol! sorry. so is it going to be a new disc to sort it if it gets worse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kja.busa Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Yep, fraid so, although I've heard you can have the "buttons" replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie16v Posted May 27, 2009 Author Share Posted May 27, 2009 Bugger, well, it aint that bad just now so can stay as is. Using a disc lock wouldnt cause this would it? i use one daily because my bike is parked outside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest akey Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 My gixer had this, was a case of new discs when it got bad.Disc lock wont make it worse in normal use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kja.busa Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Unless you try riding off regularly with it on!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie16v Posted May 27, 2009 Author Share Posted May 27, 2009 Unless you try riding off regularly with it on!!!!!lol, nah... well not yet anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 you can tell me to shut up...SHUT UP!!!!! yes, but could you take the disc off and hammer the spools closed... afterall they're just like big rivets... put the disc on some wood, so as not to damage it and with a socket the size oof the spool, go round and tap them all, then refit..or am i being simple... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kja.busa Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 you can tell me to shut up...SHUT UP!!!!! yes, but could you take the disc off and hammer the spools closed... afterall they're just like big rivets... put the disc on some wood, so as not to damage it and with a socket the size oof the spool, go round and tap them all, then refit..or am i being simple... Do you really want to "bodge" your brakes like that for the sake of £100? I'll replace mine thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Do you really want to "bodge" your brakes like that for the sake of £100? I'll replace mine thanks.isn't that how the replacement buttons are fitted?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kja.busa Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Do you really want to "bodge" your brakes like that for the sake of £100? I'll replace mine thanks.isn't that how the replacement buttons are fitted?? But the ones that are in the disc currently are worn, thats worn on the external diameter of the button, and the new ones will be fitted with a hydraulic press, not a "'kin big 'ammer and a lump of wood!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Do you really want to "bodge" your brakes like that for the sake of £100? I'll replace mine thanks.isn't that how the replacement buttons are fitted?? But the ones that are in the disc currently are worn, thats worn on the external diameter of the button, and the new ones will be fitted with a hydraulic press, not a "'kin big 'ammer and a lump of wood!"ok, never had this problem, but will know not to get the hammer out....... do you have to replace discs as a pair like on my cage (car)....? obviously new pads... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kja.busa Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 ok, never had this problem, but will know not to get the hammer out....... do you have to replace discs as a pair like on my cage (car)....? obviously new pads...Deffo new pads to go with the new disc, but if only one disc is worn, i'd replace just the one. Its safety Frank, brakes have to be right mate, can't bodge things like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosszx9r Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 you can tell me to shut up...but could you take the disc off and hammer the spools closed... SHUT THE F@#k UP......sorry frankie but the buttons usually allow the disc to 'float'they aren't riveted that tight. the rotor is alloy and the disc steel. they expand at different rates so there has to be movement at the 'button' or 'rivot'.if you look at the new ebc disc range, you'll see they have developed a new elongated button to reduce wear/wieght, it's designed to allow movement.thought you knew better than to go for a bodge job... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 thought you knew better than to go for a bodge job... And now i know better.. and so does everyone else.. doubtful I would have bodged it anyway, one the disc was off it would be easier to drop in a new one than remove, refit etc for a few miles.. (with the thought in your head,, what if.....) but i'd change only the one disc, but both sets of pads.. to keep them equal..I don't usually bodge things, would rather take the time and get it right, it was just a thought (Mad one at that... ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest akey Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 If you can get an OEM disc then I would change just the one, but if you go for replacement (EBC or braking wave) then you will need to replace both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 If you can get an OEM disc then I would change just the one, but if you go for replacement (EBC or braking wave) then you will need to replace both.wouldn't that depend on whether you currently had OEM or EBC on..if my brakes were EBC, then shouldn't i only need to change the u/s one for another of the same.. I don't need to change my discs as yet.. but for future info and anyone following this thread... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kja.busa Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 I went from standard Suzuki discs, worn out, to Braking Wavy's, admittedly good, but knackered in 12-15,000 mile and back to standard Suzuki, as Suzuki had their discs on offer at the time, autumn last year. Fitted two sets of Suzuki pads, cleaned the calipers and I can't fault them, although I should point out I do run a Brembo radial master cylinder too. All this talk of standard discs being poor is just that, talk, I race at Santa Pod regularly, and heavily brake from 140mph in a fairly short space, no problems whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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