Guest Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 Hi I have an idea for a GPS tracker. I know they already exist but it seems that many don't use them.I was hoping to get an idea as to why there not used. If your bike were to be stolen with a tracker on, its almost guaranteed to get found right??? Quote
Ninereeds Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 unless the thieves know it has a tracker on it, so they take it off, then we've just wasted a lot of money.some people genuinely dont want to find their bikes after theyve been stolen - chances are its been ragged around, dropped, crashed and had a lot of damage done to it. Its much easier for the insurance company to say ok then, so its gone, here's £xxxx for you to get a new one. Quote
Joeman Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 If i had a tracker on there, and i found out who nicked it, i would likely end up in prison after i'd been round to sort them out..also, if it gets nicked, i dont want it back! i'd rather take the insurance payout and buy a new one... Quote
Guest Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 I see where your coming from there.I havnt ever had to make an insurance claim, what do they do if the bike were recovered and it was battered??Do they still pay out for a new one or pay to have yours fixed? Quote
Joeman Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 I see where your coming from there.I havnt ever had to make an insurance claim, what do they do if the bike were recovered and it was battered??Do they still pay out for a new one or pay to have yours fixed? depends how badly damaged it is... if its "beyond economical repair" they write it off and pay up. Quote
Guest Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 Ok,Assuming the following,If the tracker were to attempt to be removed it would notify you immediately.The bike is immobilised while the tracker is armed.Should the bike be moved then again you get notified.Even if the bike were put in a van and transported you will know its location from the moment its moved.Is this worth having?? Quote
Joeman Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 For less than £1 I could build a GPS signal jammer. The criminals can too. An even if you did know where the bike was taken, do you expect the police to care?? Quote
Zod Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 One word. Pointless. Get a good ground anchor and thick chain, stick the ground anchor to the ground ofc or to a wall of your choice and chain it to the ground anchor. Or. Drill some holes into a wall or driveway and stick some good ring hooks in and cement them in and chain the bike to them with a nice thick lock n chain... Quote
Smokin Joe Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 Back in the day some scrote nicked my Mk1 Facelift Capri. The worst thing that ever happened was plod finding it one week before the insurance were due to pay out. No battery, oil light staying on at tickover, spare and tools missing.If it's nicked it'll be trashed. Quote
Bogof Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 I was hoping to get an idea as to why there not used. If your bike were to be stolen with a tracker on, its almost guaranteed to get found right??? If my bike is stolen without a tracker... the insurance company are guaranteed to pay out. Guess why I won't be spending money on a tracker? Quote
Adam Posted June 29, 2013 Posted June 29, 2013 You might as well just buy one of these http://bit.ly/19K1vWX and let them have fun trying to find it ;D Quote
nman1 Posted July 15, 2013 Posted July 15, 2013 I have a "TrackKING" gps fitted to my bike. It`s put the insurance down quite a bit as the recovery rate is around 97%. If the bike is moved more than 20 yards without the key in the ignition, it alerts the centre and the police are automatically contacted. I then type in my code and I can see, through google earth exactly where it is and where it`s travelling. It also tells me if the battery is draining and other small things.Cost around £300 but around the same price as a good alarm (which most people ignor these days anyway) Quote
Guest Posted July 17, 2013 Posted July 17, 2013 a mate had his Golf R6 stolen overnight off his driveway, the cops found it via it's tracking device on wasteland in Liverpool. The car didn't have a scratch on it and the cops said it'd been left on the wasteland to see if it had a tracker fitted, the guys who stole it would have been back for it a day or so later if it hadn't been located by a tracker. He paid for a company to collect it from the cops and clean it up before he got it back, says it was as good as new. Small cost compared to future insurance hassle I figure maybe some car/bike stickers indicating to would be thieves you have a tracker fitted would be a good idea, maybe even just the stickers and no tracker Quote
Bogof Posted July 17, 2013 Posted July 17, 2013 I figure maybe some car/bike stickers indicating to would be thieves you have a tracker fitted would be a good idea, maybe even just the stickers and no tracker Try here http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/gps-sticker Quote
hash29 Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 I have a "TrackKING" gps fitted to my bike. It`s put the insurance down quite a bit as the recovery rate is around 97%. If the bike is moved more than 20 yards without the key in the ignition, it alerts the centre and the police are automatically contacted. I then type in my code and I can see, through google earth exactly where it is and where it`s travelling. It also tells me if the battery is draining and other small things.Cost around £300 but around the same price as a good alarm (which most people ignor these days anyway) I purchased a new 63 plate r1 from p&h motorcycles and as an upsale decided on bike track, like you i was of the mind my bike was safe.How wrong i was, on fri 24th jan at 10,21 am my r1 was stolen , i got an alert but as i got outside it was already gone, np i thought tracker will see me get it back, i called the police and tracker.The police arrived at 10,30 am and as i was giving details etc i received another alert saying battery disconnect.This was 10,58 am and was showing a location some 3 quarters of a mile away, the police got on it immediately and at 11,02 am were at the scene a block of 10 garages!!!.great i thought the bikes in one of them, the police contacted tracker direct and tracker sent a guy down on a bike to pin point what garage, his device narrowed it down to one garage, he put a probe camera under the door only to find an empty garage.. with this he said has anyone looked on the roofs , sure enough there it was complete tracker system and r1 gone.Now when i was sold this along with my new bike i was told they bury the device and it would take a couple of hrs to remove, it was infact removed in 3 minutes... needless to say im going to take action against seller for incorrect fitting and miss selling a product... man i am so pissed off Quote
nman1 Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 That does not sound too good. I`ve recently been having trouble with my electrics on the bike and had to keep disconnecting the battery. I get a warning and phone call each time but after so many occasions I`m wondering if they`ll bother if it does really get stolen. (boy crying wolf and all that) I was told when I purchased it that they would automatically contact the police if the bike was moved 20 yards without the key in, but this looks dubious.Good luck with your case and if you don`t get the bike back hope the insurance works well for you. I`d be gutted if mine were nicked Quote
Joeman Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 Where on a bike can you hide a tracker that will take more than 10mins to remove??There just aren't enough hiding places.Once you locate it, dont even need to remove it, just need to put a few holes in it with a cordless drill and it'll be dead. Quote
Chrissb6 Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 You would of thought the tracker would of been buried deep in the bike and should of taken a good while to find. Off in 3 min it must have been almost on display, must have been a very poor install if you ask me Quote
hash29 Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 You would of thought the tracker would of been buried deep in the bike and should of taken a good while to find. Off in 3 min it must have been almost on display, must have been a very poor install if you ask me I'd say very poor, I was told tank up air box up and then buried deep so no chance, I figured tank and air box up would be 20-30 mins etc then locate etc so 40 mins worse case, if this was so I would have had my bike back and all would be well, I have a solicitor appointment today and if he takes the case I will be taking court action to get a new like for like bike...Why should I lose out because of poor fitting, that's just neglect and unfit for purpose. Quote
Guest Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 As said above.. Not really much places to hide a tracker really...Shame there isnt like micro trackers. like a ultra small size.. and wireless would be good too.Id remove my front tire and epoxy it on the inside of the rim, then fit the tire back on Quote
Joeman Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 You would of thought the tracker would of been buried deep in the bike and should of taken a good while to find. Off in 3 min it must have been almost on display, must have been a very poor install if you ask me I'd say very poor, I was told tank up air box up and then buried deep so no chance, I figured tank and air box up would be 20-30 mins etc then locate etc so 40 mins worse case, if this was so I would have had my bike back and all would be well, I have a solicitor appointment today and if he takes the case I will be taking court action to get a new like for like bike...Why should I lose out because of poor fitting, that's just neglect and unfit for purpose. Bikes are built to be serviced quickly by unskilled monkeys to maximise profits from servicing charges. Taking the tank and airbox off would take seconds for someone who knew what they were doing.Also, trackers can easily be jammed. Easy to have a jammer in the back of the van and drive it off someplace and strip it down.sorry to say, but your bike is likely already been broken for parts.With the limits of current technology, there really is no good hiding place on an R1 for a tracking device that cant be accessed in a few mins, so IMO getting solicitors involved will just be a waste of time and money. Quote
Chrissb6 Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 You would of thought the tracker would of been buried deep in the bike and should of taken a good while to find. Off in 3 min it must have been almost on display, must have been a very poor install if you ask me I'd say very poor, I was told tank up air box up and then buried deep so no chance, I figured tank and air box up would be 20-30 mins etc then locate etc so 40 mins worse case, if this was so I would have had my bike back and all would be well, I have a solicitor appointment today and if he takes the case I will be taking court action to get a new like for like bike...Why should I lose out because of poor fitting, that's just neglect and unfit for purpose. Bikes are built to be serviced quickly by unskilled monkeys to maximise profits from servicing charges. Taking the tank and airbox off would take seconds for someone who knew what they were doing.Also, trackers can easily be jammed. Easy to have a jammer in the back of the van and drive it off someplace and strip it down.sorry to say, but your bike is likely already been broken for parts.With the limits of current technology, there really is no good hiding place on an R1 for a tracking device that cant be accessed in a few mins, so IMO getting solicitors involved will just be a waste of time and money.They must have been pro's and got real lucky to find and get that tracker out and disarmed in that time if it was well concealed. Unless they already knew it was there?!! To find just the tracker on the roof and no other bits scattered around raises suspicion Quote
Chrissb6 Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 You would of thought the tracker would of been buried deep in the bike and should of taken a good while to find. Off in 3 min it must have been almost on display, must have been a very poor install if you ask me I'd say very poor, I was told tank up air box up and then buried deep so no chance, I figured tank and air box up would be 20-30 mins etc then locate etc so 40 mins worse case, if this was so I would have had my bike back and all would be well, I have a solicitor appointment today and if he takes the case I will be taking court action to get a new like for like bike...Why should I lose out because of poor fitting, that's just neglect and unfit for purpose. Bikes are built to be serviced quickly by unskilled monkeys to maximise profits from servicing charges. Taking the tank and airbox off would take seconds for someone who knew what they were doing.Also, trackers can easily be jammed. Easy to have a jammer in the back of the van and drive it off someplace and strip it down.sorry to say, but your bike is likely already been broken for parts.With the limits of current technology, there really is no good hiding place on an R1 for a tracking device that cant be accessed in a few mins, so IMO getting solicitors involved will just be a waste of time and money.They must have been pro's and got real lucky to find and get that tracker out and disarmed in that time if it was well concealed. Unless they already knew it was there?!! To find just the tracker on the roof and no other bits scattered around raises suspicion Quote
hash29 Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 You would of thought the tracker would of been buried deep in the bike and should of taken a good while to find. Off in 3 min it must have been almost on display, must have been a very poor install if you ask me I'd say very poor, I was told tank up air box up and then buried deep so no chance, I figured tank and air box up would be 20-30 mins etc then locate etc so 40 mins worse case, if this was so I would have had my bike back and all would be well, I have a solicitor appointment today and if he takes the case I will be taking court action to get a new like for like bike...Why should I lose out because of poor fitting, that's just neglect and unfit for purpose. Bikes are built to be serviced quickly by unskilled monkeys to maximise profits from servicing charges. Taking the tank and airbox off would take seconds for someone who knew what they were doing.Also, trackers can easily be jammed. Easy to have a jammer in the back of the van and drive it off someplace and strip it down.sorry to say, but your bike is likely already been broken for parts.With the limits of current technology, there really is no good hiding place on an R1 for a tracking device that cant be accessed in a few mins, so IMO getting solicitors involved will just be a waste of time and money. I don't think its a waste if time , the unit was up sold as a secure fitted well tucked away unit , even got a 2 hr charge for labour as it supposedly needed secure fixing.. Truth is unit was not secure and not hidden well, the recovered unit shows no marks and only a stretched cable where it was yanked out!!If secured it would not have been able to be yanked out!! Quote
Joeman Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 I don't think its a waste if time , the unit was up sold as a secure fitted well tucked away unit , even got a 2 hr charge for labour as it supposedly needed secure fixing.. Truth is unit was not secure and not hidden well, the recovered unit shows no marks and only a stretched cable where it was yanked out!!If secured it would not have been able to be yanked out!! Most likely just cable tied to the rear sub frame. so they just had to snip the ties and yank the unit out.Your insurance will pay for a replacement bike and replacement tracker, so what is there to gain by taking the shop to court? Quote
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