Guest Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Hi, new to the site, have recently been given an old Kawa GPz550 and its in a bad way.The engine had seized from being stood for so long (2+ years) so i took the end cover off and turned the crank nut with a spanner, and luckily it started turning with the plugs out.But with the plugs in, i cannot get it to turn over at all, on a bump start it locks the wheel.Any ideas how i can free it up?Also, i charged the battery and there is nothing, no lights etc.? Anything obvious to look for, fuses fine, but i suspect the battery to be no good after all this time?Many thanks, Andy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 remove the plugs and drop a bit of oil down each port and leave it over night then turn it with a spanner as for the battery if its been stood 2 years it will be fooked a new one will be needed by the waywelcome to the site stick a post in newbies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Thanks for the advice Stu..Will do that! Ill get some fresh oil and a new batt. and see how it goes. Will let you know Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 i wouldnt do an oil change on the bike yet though get the engine moving first just put a few drops in each pot to give it a bit of lube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 sounds like it could be a bad valve on one of the pots. I only say this as it sounds like its causing an air blockage in the pot when its trying to turn it with the plug in hence sealing it but it turns ok when the air is free to move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Thanks Stu i will do that.Today i bought a new battery and just fitted it in. I turned the key and nothing, yesterday i noticed there was an aftermarket alarm fitted and wired into the bike, one wire directly connects to the battery. So i fiddled with the alarm from the fuse and got a little beep noise and eventually i had a neutral light when i turned the key. But absolutely nothing else, no indicators, lights, horn and nothing on the start button. Surely i must be getting something to be seeing the neutral light? But there is nothing else.Im wondering is the alarm messing with my electrics. Overall, the wiring looks ok, theres nothing broken or fraying and everything is tightly together. Apart from one red and white wire, there are 5 of these, 2 joined together and one on its own. So i played around swapping them, but still nothing, i swapped the two that were joined and the alarm siren went off nearly deafening me Until i turned the key when it went off.So, i carried on fiddling about with it and i am having no luck. What do you suggest, disconnecting the alarm and see if anything changes? What is the function of an alarm, to disable the electrics so it cannot be hot-wired as well as omiting the siren when there messed with? Also, thanks Andyhipster, i will investigate this further when if oil does not free it up.. hopefully not a bad valve, as i dont have the first idea. When you say bad valve, what kind of things could make it do this?Thanks, Andy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 if its been sat for a while all the carbon deposits and shit that builds up could have stuck the exhaust valve to the valve seal, this would cause the engine to compress air in the cylinder when trying to turn the engine, used to see this alot with older bikes that have been sat for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 if its been sat for a while all the carbon deposits and poo that builds up could have stuck the exhaust valve to the valve seal, this would cause the engine to compress air in the cylinder when trying to turn the engine, used to see this alot with older bikes that have been sat for a while. Thanks mate, theres been a bit of a development Well, i found a missing negative battery wire that was hidden well under the frame, so i hooked that up and to my amazement everything worked. Even the starter! As like earlier, it went over fine with no plugs. but stuck with the plugs in, so i took the plugs out again and put oil in, and held the starter for a little while, lubricating everything. So i put the plugs back in, and it turned over lovely. Sounded like a high squeak though. But ive never had an electric start bike so it is all new to me.. So, me being such an impatient sod I hooked up the tank and put a little petrol in and it started 8) Couple of things though , one header (extreme right) was getting really hot and none of the others where. This cylinder was also smoking a bit, could this have anything to do with the oil i put in before hand?Also, as soon as you put any amount of throttle on, it dies. And last thing, it smokes a fair bit from the exhaust, again could this be the oil i put in?Then i ran out of fuel Do you reckon one of the valves could still be dodgy? I really cant judge alot yet, as i havent cleaned the carbs, connected the air filter, new plugs or anything yet so.. Just pleased it started really.Thanks again guys, Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 well it runs so theres a start the oil should have burned off really quick unless you put loads in the carbs will need taking off and cleaning they will need a really good clean too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 well it runs so theres a start the oil should have burned off really quick unless you put loads in the carbs will need taking off and cleaning they will need a really good clean too Yeah, at least i know its worth going ahead with it now. I did put quite a bit in actually, and the plugs were oily too as originall i only planned to put the oil in and then leave it for a few days but... Im looking forward to doing the carbs actually , also the air filter wasnt connected so that wouldnt help. Thanks Stu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 get some carb cleaner and strip them and give them a really good clean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Thanks alot, i plan to do this on the weekend as im busy with work all week so, will look forward to it though Now, im still a little worried about the 'stiffness' of the engine. I put the battery back in and tried to turn it over and it was stiff and wouldnt budge, it wnet a little bit and then stopped. Ive found that if you kind of jab the starter button it will free up and turn over freely. I made a small video to show you what i mean, this was the first attempt at the start, and also my video skills Ive managed to get it on youtube at last You'll notice it starts for a second, i think a bit of fuel must be still left in there somewhere.What do you think of the sound of it turning over? THis is with plugs and HT's on etc etc. Sorry for the poor quality.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy9NMVRu4koTHanks, Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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