New Biker

[Saul]

Just been getting my youngest daughter’s bike ready for her 17 birthday tomorrow.   
L Plates, phone charger and mount plus all the regular checks.    Ready to rumble.   I’m going with her for a few hours just to get her confidence up, her request.    I have been told I have to take my CBF as it matches her bikes colour

 

[S-Westerly]

Good to see it's a Honda and not some dire Chinese tat. Even if it's actually made in China at least with Honda you've got a dealer network and hopefully it won't dissolve in the first winter.

Edited October 17, 2024 by S-Westerly

[Saul]

25 minutes ago, S-Westerly said:

Good to see it's a Honda and not some dire Chinese tat. Even if it's actually made in China at least with Honda you've got a dealer network and hopefully it won't dissolve in the first winter.

To be honest it is a thoroughly pleasant thing to ride around on.  We had done 600 miles on it together and it copes two up very well.    I have been taking her over to a disused airfield so she could practice on it 26 miles from where we live.    Obviously not fast but cheap as chips to run and practical transport.  If I worked closer I wouldn't mind commuting on one.     We still have 12 months of the factory warranty left as well.  

[Capt Sisko]

I know it's probably going to cause an argurement with her, but do your daughter a favour take the phone holder off. As she's got a lot of learning to do and doesn't need the distraction it will ultimately make. I know kids feel cut off from the world if they can't answer calls, texts, whatapps or whatever teens use to comumicate nowadays instantly, but start them off the right way and discourage any distractions while going through the learning curve.

Edited October 17, 2024 by Capt Sisko

[Saul]

26 minutes ago, Capt Sisko said:

I know it's probably going to cause an argurement with her, but do your daughter a favour take the phone holder off. As she's got a lot of learning to do and doesn't need the distraction it will ultimately make. I know kids feel cut off from the world if they can't answer calls, texts, whatapps or whatever teens use to comumicate nowadays instantly, but start them off the right way and discourage any distractions while going through the learning curve.

I won't be doing that, she will need it for nav, not all teenagers are feckless idiots and it's a shame you felt the need to judge my daughter before you have even met her.    I can see this thread was a mistake. 

[Capt Sisko]

55 minutes ago, Saul said:

I won't be doing that, she will need it for nav, not all teenagers are feckless idiots and it's a shame you felt the need to judge my daughter before you have even met her.    I can see this thread was a mistake. 

The fact of life is that learner motorcyclist are the most vulnerable vehicle group going and they've got enough to concentrate on as it is. Anything that is a distraction, and sat nav is exactly that, let alone a phone that will show other things is a bad thing. I'm sorry if you don't like the way the message and if you wish to interpret it your own way that's up to you, but I come from the old school of life and don't sugar coat things.

 

I'm sure others will reply more with posts more to your liking.

Edited October 17, 2024 by Capt Sisko

[AstronautNinja]

This forum would do well with a dose of chill sometimes! 0 - serious in about 3 seconds 

[JRH]

2 hours ago, Saul said:

I won't be doing that, she will need it for nav, not all teenagers are feckless idiots and it's a shame you felt the need to judge my daughter before you have even met her.    I can see this thread was a mistake. 

And I do believe that in car tests the learner is required to navigate using a satnav. So in my opinion it’s fine to have one available.

[RideWithStyles]

agreed Astro. Started off lovely and went….

 

I get what Capt was saying as a suggestion for safety and well being and reason behind it especially with own flesh and blood. young and inexperienced with ever busy roads and lifestyle dont always mix and it doesn’t take a moment for it to go badly even with age.

a random oink on a first post maybe have a different reaction and opinions. 
Up to if you both you and your daughter wish to heed it but the reaction was a little sharp…

 

phones can have a FOCUS OR OTHER PROFILE where certain options can be muted so only the sat nav will work etc.

 

Correct thats four wheels with great stability  and not falling over. you can easily see the instructions let alone listen in without much trouble 

it’s very easy. it’s not the same with a bike, otherwise they’d be doing it that way on a bike already…. Just to point out without any pedantic arguments.

 

eventually she’ll have to have a headset in her helmet at some time for the cbt instructor/examiner at some point anyway so getting use to having a voice other than your own in your head of the sat nav one would be less of a shock and not have to look at the phon3 in the first place would be good?

 

Edited October 17, 2024 by RideWithStyles
Autocorrect bs

[Nick the wanderer]

Yeah tricky one, not a fan of the sat nav on bikes or indeed the massive screens they have in cars nowadays. Didn't know they used them in car tests.

I think any distraction from concentrating on the road is a.. well a distraction from the road. I'm old school but am aware that kids these days seem to be able to negotiate there way around with a device stuck in their faces.

 

[RideWithStyles]

Yea Nick, they’ve used them for a good few years now. The idea is that rather than an examiner dictating where to go (best or worst routes) its now up to the NAV or google to say otherwise…one less reason to blame the person next to you for your cock up (especially if they have a harsh accent).

 

from my experience WAZE would make every journey random and amusing as to which route so id make that a default , while we use it I have games including how many people using Waze on that section of road, how many characters there are, would the route and time be correct, how many times it will repeat the same instructions before the round about, change the voice to a random point you barely understand it and guessing what it’s saying, second guessing which tiny crevice of a route it would send you…so much fun.

[Nick the wanderer]

I tried Waze once, for about a day.