Spark plugs

[Stu]

get a haynes manual and read it then drop the top (head removal), you'll learn loads, and if you b*gg*r it up, well its in no better condition than when you started, plus in its current state you wouldn't get much for it..

look on it as anything learnt now will come in handy later.. it's how i started with a busted gp100

 

just added my bit coloured red above

if you sit down with the manual and read it a few times and get the gist of what you are doing you will find it really easy to do

[JoshTimmins]

thts the way ive looked at it.. 1st bike and if had to do all this on it! Not ideal for a first bike if im honest, but i can say ive had the experience, etc!

Just wish i hdnt spent this much money on something ive ridden 3miles since november! but you know life i spose!

Will take a look at different options! got a haynes manual through the other day, might be my goodnight book for a few nights. hehe.

Thanks guys

Josh

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[Guest]

take the head of and see what you can do with it or take it to a bike shop see wat thay can come up with?

it should be easy to get out ........?

[Bill_on_a_bike]

I took the head off mine, fully convinced I'd never ever see it run ever again, but it does, and it runs well.

I'm not far away, If you want hand gimme a shout.

You need to buy a gasket set, for the top end and probably between the barrel and the crankcase aswell. These usually come in a pack of all sorts of stuff though.

Count yourself lucky you don't need to get the valves out, cus that's a bloody fiddle.

[Guest]

it dose not sound good..........?

[Voodoo]

How the hell did you manage to snap a plug there?

[Guest]

I took the head off mine, fully convinced I'd never ever see it run ever again, but it does, and it runs well.

I'm not far away, If you want hand gimme a shout.

You need to buy a gasket set, for the top end and probably between the barrel and the crankcase aswell. These usually come in a pack of all sorts of stuff though.

Count yourself lucky you don't need to get the valves out, cus that's a bloody fiddle.

 

I don't see that you need to go as far as the barrel and crank, should just be able to remove the camshaft portion so the top of the piston is showing. so 2 gaskets. plus exhaust gaskets

[Grumpy Old Git]

The only way I can see you snapping a spark plug in that position is if the thread is crossed - you can easily break the top (white) section of a plug by stressing it with an incorrectly positioned spanner but that cannot apply to the 'nut' section.

So, assuming cross-threaded, you will not be able to get enough purchase out of a screw extractor without 'mangling' the threaded portion and probably damaging the threaded hole. Take the head off - use WD40 (or Plus gas) and leave for a while then heat up the head and 'persude' the remains out with and extractor or grips (if you can access the inner portion sufficiently). Once out, inspect the thread - It may clean up OK (if you are lucky) or may need to be drilled out and a heli-coil fitted (If you have never done this before, you would probably be better off getting a shop to do this (most engineering works can do this kind of thing) - it should not cost too much (had one done on an old Yam a few years ago for £20)).

Alternative is to get a second-hand head from a breakers (you may need to swap out valves, etc.).

Good luck.

GOG

[JoshTimmins]

fixed! dad borrowed some screw extractors from someone at work and did the job! Dont know how hard it was to get out, etc.

maybe i was jst being a noob and turnin the wrong way? i dno but jst need to order a new spark plug and it can be put on evilbay!

Josh

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thanks for the help guys

[Bill_on_a_bike]

I just hope you haven't screwed the thread up inside.

[JoshTimmins]

I just hope you haven't screwed the thread up inside.

 

you and me both hehe

Josh

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[JoshTimmins]

this is the spark plug after removing it all

Josh

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[Bill_on_a_bike]

Get a new one in alright? She start up?

[JoshTimmins]

Get a new one in alright? She start up?

 

i bought 2 replaced em both the one that is snapped - the end is black and dad said the other one was black and wet!

any ideas peoples? yes it went in ok did start first time, but im gonna say they are gonna go to the same condition as the old ones if there is a seal or something gone

Josh

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[Guest]

Get a new one in alright? She start up?

 

i bought 2 replaced em both the one that is snapped - the end is black and dad said the other one was black and wet!

any ideas peoples? yes it went in ok did start first time, but im gonna say they are gonna go to the same condition as the old ones if there is a seal or something gone

Josh

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put them in by hand then nip them up by a quarter turn, no more.

possibly some coppaslip? but never have myself...

[JoshTimmins]

put them in by hand then nip them up by a quarter turn, no more.

possibly some coppaslip? but never have myself...

 

They are in and done daddy did them Just the condition of the ends im worried about :/

Josh

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[Bill_on_a_bike]

Black and wet indicates burning oil, is there any blue smoke from the exhaust?

[JoshTimmins]

Black and wet indicates burning oil, is there any blue smoke from the exhaust?

 

wouldnt say it was blue more white but i cant remember from the last time i run the bike - musta been a week 1/2 / 2 weeks ago ill check in the mornin

Josh

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[Guest]

Black and wet indicates burning oil, is there any blue smoke from the exhaust?

 

wouldnt say it was blue more white but i cant remember from the last time i run the bike - musta been a week 1/2 / 2 weeks ago ill check in the mornin

Josh

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could be from a problem that you have now fixed, i would leave it a week or so (as long as youre using it) or 100-200 miles, then take them out and have a fresh look.

[JoshTimmins]

Black and wet indicates burning oil, is there any blue smoke from the exhaust?

 

wouldnt say it was blue more white but i cant remember from the last time i run the bike - musta been a week 1/2 / 2 weeks ago ill check in the mornin

Josh

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could be from a problem that you have now fixed, i would leave it a week or so (as long as youre using it) or 100-200 miles, then take them out and have a fresh look.

 

problem is i rarely use the bike (although think i can now start to ) cos of the problesm i was hving.

Josh

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[Guest]

problem is i rarely use the bike (although think i can now start to ) cos of the problesm i was hving.

Josh

x will do thanks

What i'm trying to say, is don't worry to much about the state of the old plugs, leave the new ones in a while then check their condition, could be that the problem is now fixed, and you're hunting in vain.

[JoshTimmins]

problem is i rarely use the bike (although think i can now start to ) cos of the problesm i was hving.

Josh

x will do thanks

What i'm trying to say, is don't worry to much about the state of the old plugs, leave the new ones in a while then check their condition, could be that the problem is now fixed, and you're hunting in vain.

 

ahh right gotcha! thanks

Josh

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