I haven't forgotten about this guys. Problem has been convincing OH to let us use his place...still not there yet but not got a def 'NO' yet either. Still need some form of back-up plan and one that springs to mind is Hesket Newmarket (nr Caldbeck). Handy for motorway, N fells etc. There is a small campsite there tucked away on a farm and a great little brew pub 30yds away http://www.theoldcrownpub.co.uk/ Plus any number of B&Bs for comfort lovers... Theres an annual vinatge bike rally held here so must be bike friendly....2nd weekend in May so that dates out for here. So ....do we go for May Day bank holiday weekend? or...The last B hol weekend in May and go for another venue? Or ....one of the weekends in between? (any chance of a poll... oh great ones in Mod Land?...pleeeze) One last thing.......if I do manage to convince HIM what do you think of a donation each towards toilets, a BBQ etc????